Tuition fees are a good thing/

The problem is that in today's age people are incredibly entitled. Going to university, no matter how rubbish the institution, no matter how ridiculous the degree, has entwined itself within the culture of England. Growing up means going to university and having a degree and passing a few exams where you have to memorise a bunch of things or write a few useless essays - young people measure their self worth on these worthless privileges.

If you tell an 18 year old that they will have to pay the cost of their degrees, then they'll throw a tantrum and vote for the party who promises cheaper education. Self-entitlement runs deep in this country.

The solution is to completely stop funding universities and degrees, apart from the essential NHS funded courses. Encourage people to learn a trade from the age of 15 which will provide them with skills, useful work and an income for the rest of their lives (or at least for the time being). 16 year olds need to learn and prepare to be adults again instead of university students remain children well into their mid 20s.

I get where you're coming from, I'd just much rather it be £1000 or £3000 like it used to be.

What if they can't pay or it? How is it moral that in one of the wealthiest countries in the world we have people who want to better themselves trapped in relative poverty because they can't afford a degree?

A piece of paper granted to you by an institution that doesn't care about you, labelled 'degree' does not necessarily mean you are bettering yourself. A degree can be a burden - 3 or 4 years of (often pointless) study, huge debt and, a lot of the time nothing to show for it.

You want to escape poverty? A good start would be not to get yourself into £50,000 worth of debt. But alas, most 18 year old children won't bother heeding such a warning.

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The self-entitlement runs deep here. Not only that but it is common for self-entitled people to suffer from delusions of grandeur. Many people cannot afford to pay for many things. Now are you willing to give 25% of your income to daddy government so that I can afford to go to the shooting range, take a few courses and purchase a shotgun license and a sawd-off shotgun? I thought not.

A piece of paper granted to you by an institution that doesn't care about you, labelled 'degree' does not necessarily mean you are bettering yourself. A degree can be a burden - 3 or 4 years of (often pointless) study, huge debt and, a lot of the time nothing to show for it.

You want to escape poverty? A good start would be not to get yourself into £50,000 worth of debt. But alas, most 18 year old children won't bother heeding such a warning.

Maybe you should have gone or go again to university. Might stop you from writing such drivel.

On what basis should the contribution be lowered. It does not affect accessibility to higher education

Nah I went for 3 months last year and got dumber by the day, so I left and regained my lost sanity. Maybe you should write a coherent reply next time. Ad-hominem is no argument.

Having people successfully complete degree generally has a positive impact on the whole of society and is not just for the benefit of the individual completing the degree. There will always be exceptions where this is not the case, but for the majority of people it benefits society as whole and is especially beneficial in many career focuses degrees (medicine, nursing, social work, engineering, teaching) and very academic/science degrees (physics, chemistry, mathematics, biology etc).

It therefore makes sense that a contribution to fund degrees comes from general taxation as the benefit is not just to the individual.

Tuition fees are the fairest way.

Why should i have to subsidise someone else's ****ty liberal arts degree from some unknown polytechnic?

And why do students feel as thought they are soo entitled?

Blah blah blah give me some free **** that other people have to pay for.

Are there any statistics that back up the 'generally positive impact on society' that having a degree results in?

If degrees are heavily subsidised, we'll see a massive increase in the amount of people that decide to go to unversity and that doesn't fit with the amount of jobs there are available. Heavy saturation of the entry level job market is not a benefit to society.

Unfortunately the person which gets the shitty degree will never pay back if he does not earn enough, so it like before i.e the taxpayer does

if you expect to earn less than 24k for the rest of your career after uni then please do not waste your time and get a job and just progress up the ladder

Free education has been a universal right in this country right up until a decade ago.
It caused no problems and the students paid more in tax than none graduates.

End of story

It should have stayed that way


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