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Edexcel S3 - Wednesday 25th May AM 2016

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What accuracy level are you supposed to go to when comparing expected and observed frequencies when the expected freq is a long decimal?

Also if expected frequencies come out as a fraction can they be left like this? Sometimes if you do this you get an answer more accurate than the mark scheme - would this lose a mark?

Thanks:smile:
Any point in researching into the actual concepts behind chi-squared distribution?
Original post by economicss
So if a question asks what assumptions have been made, am I right in thinking it could never be that we've assumed the population is normally distributed with the central limit theorem? Not sure on my wording there, thanks :smile:


Yep.
Original post by econam
What accuracy level are you supposed to go to when comparing expected and observed frequencies when the expected freq is a long decimal?

Also if expected frequencies come out as a fraction can they be left like this? Sometimes if you do this you get an answer more accurate than the mark scheme - would this lose a mark?

Thanks:smile:


I stuck to 4 d.p until the end and then in mark schemes, they seem to have answers which round to 2 or 3 d.p :dontknow: I don't think you'd lose a mark for that - and fractions would probably okay till the end.
Original post by Euclidean
To be honest, aside from some combinations of variables trouble I had yesterday (squaring not squaring etc), I got all of S3 on my first run-through in like 5 hours. Confidence intervals just sort of make sense if you think about the concept.

Error we can assume is normally distributed. It's value depends on how big of a sample we take, so bigger sample means smaller error. The interval depends on what percentage (for 90% this is 5% either side) we don't want to concern ourselves with on either side of the true mean so we can use normal tables to find that corresponding Z value (as error is normally distributed).

That's probably a patchy explanation in terms of the actual statistics but it's how I reasoned with the idea.


You mentioned to had done solomon papers, any hard ones?
Original post by physicsmaths
Yeh you get the percentage 1- it and half it and look in the samll P(Z>z) tables at the back. Then do
x+-numbers(sd/sqrtn)


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Makese sense thanks
Original post by Katiee224
Quick question, if we get tied ranks when calculating spearmans rank correlation coefficient, are we meant to abandon it and use the pmcc instead?

Does anyone know what we're meant to do :tongue:

No edexcel feed you and make the test SRCC or PMCC obvious. This would be an advantage/disadvantage type
anyone have a link to the 2015 papers?
will the dof when combining cells always still be 1, similar to a dice example where the last value is not independent?
Original post by Zacken
Yep.


I thought the assumtion was that we assume S_a=omega_a etc. Ive onky done a few and this is always what they say for somereason.


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Original post by physicsmaths
I thought the assumtion was that we assume S_a=omega_a etc. Ive onky done a few and this is always what they say for somereason.


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Yeah, that is the assumption. Although it's called sigma not omega. :tongue:
Original post by Zacken
Yeah, that is the assumption. Although it's called sigma not omega. :tongue:


Oh yeh, too much mechanics starting to get confused lol
Original post by Zacken
Yep.


Thanks :smile:
Original post by 1asdfghjkl1
anyone have a link to the 2015 papers?


http://qualifications.pearson.com/content/dam/pdf/A-Level/Mathematics/2013/Exam-materials/6691_01_que_20150520.pdf

The MS is on the edexcel website :smile:
Anyone seen or done any past paper questions with continuity corrections that they can point me towards? Or even book exercise questions for that matter. Thanks.
Original post by paradoxequation
Anyone seen or done any past paper questions with continuity corrections that they can point me towards? Or even book exercise questions for that matter. Thanks.


S2 probably has more of them, when you have questions asking you to approximate discrete distributions (i.e poisson/binomial) by the normal distribution. You just observe what the number is and the inequality, and make the number more appropriate (i.e if you're looing for ... <5 then the greatest value you're looking for is less than or equal to 4.5.

Original post by Nikhilm
Any point in researching into the actual concepts behind chi-squared distribution?


I don't.. think so :tongue:
Original post by SeanFM
S2 probably has more of them, when you have questions asking you to approximate discrete distributions (i.e poisson/binomial) by the normal distribution. You just observe what the number is and the inequality, and make the number more appropriate (i.e if you're looing for ... <5 then the greatest value you're looking for is less than or equal to 4.5.

5.5
How do you solve the questions such as the part b one in the attached solution? I get the LHS, but I'm always a bit unclear on the steps from how they go from < 0.01 to < -2.3632. I understand they are using the percentage points but how exactly do you get there? Thanks.
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Original post by Nikhilm


5.5


If you're looking for less than 5 in a discrete distribution, then the most it can be in a continuous distribution is 4.5. If it is less than or equal to 5, then the most it can be is 5.5.
http://www.solutionbanks.com/solutionbanks.comFiles/chapter%20sol%20S3/CH5.pdf exercise 5C Q7

Surely they've done this wrong. You're suppose to put A, B, C .... at the top and then rank correspondingly?

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