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OCR A2 CHEMISTRY F324 and F325- 14th and 22nd June 2016- OFFICIAL THREAD

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Reply 280
Original post by AqsaMx
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Not sure what colour the indicator would be, by saying its anion is blue, does this mean it's blue in acidic conditions??


Anyone know what colours these pHs would give?
Reply 281
Original post by AqsaMx
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Does anyone know how to do (b) and question (8)

Seriously need help with these type of questions !



Anyone know how to do these questions??
Original post by AqsaMx
How do you know you have twice the number of moles of AgNO3? :/
When I work out the moles I get 2x10-3 Ag+ and 0.01 Cl-


0.01 is the number of moles in 250cm3, 25cm3 was taken from that and used in the titration so you have 10 times less moles, hence 0.001 moles of complex.

0.001:0.002
1:2
Reply 283
Original post by Serine Soul
I'm getting the same as thad333. Have you asked your tutors about it?

I mean the complexes it can be are
- [Cr(H2O)6]3+
- [Cr(H2O)5Cl]2+
- [Cr(H2O)4Cl2]+

And the compound and AgNO3 react in a 1:2 ratio, so 2xCl- , outside the complex ion, must be used up to react with the AgNO3

I feel like I'm missing something


My teacher isn't the best at explaining things lol..
How do you know to multiply the moles of Cl by 2?
Original post by AqsaMx
How do you know you have twice the number of moles of AgNO3? :/
When I work out the moles I get 2x10-3 Ag+ and 0.01 Cl-


How many moles of the original compound is dissolved in 250cm3? How many moles will be in a 25cm3 portion of this solution?
It's good to challenge yourself, you never know when OCR will chuck in a crappy question (cough cough 'magic tang')
Reply 286
Original post by Serine Soul
It's good to challenge yourself, you never know when OCR will chuck in a crappy question (cough cough 'magic tang')


loool i hated that q, thats true i have a feeling that this yrs paper is going to be hard 😭


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Original post by ranz
loool i hated that q, thats true i have a feeling that this yrs paper is going to be hard 😭


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Probably will, being the last of the spec :frown:
Original post by AqsaMx
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Really difficult question, anyone know how to do this?


Hey, where are you getting these questions from? :smile: They look really good and I don't recognise them!
What is everyone getting in past papers? I've left the 2014 papers for the week before the exams. But I've done all of the others + a few legacy papers (which I really recommend). I usually get 79-82 on F325 papers the first time I do them and anywhere from 50-54 on F324 papers. I really need harder questions to practise with the crap OCR can pull :I
Reply 290
Think up a molecule. Look it up on SDBS.
Who is retaking unit 1 & 2 ocr chemsitry A ??
Original post by ToLiveInADream
What is everyone getting in past papers? I've left the 2014 papers for the week before the exams. But I've done all of the others + a few legacy papers (which I really recommend). I usually get 79-82 on F325 papers the first time I do them and anywhere from 50-54 on F324 papers. I really need harder questions to practise with the crap OCR can pull :I


F324: Usualy 90/90 UMS each time. The raw mark required for this varies quite considerably, from 50/60 in June 2015 to 59/60 in January 2013.

F325: I've only done two papers so far but 131/150 and 135/150 (UMS) so far.
Original post by AqsaMx
My teacher isn't the best at explaining things lol..
How do you know to multiply the moles of Cl by 2?


You don't have to double the moles of Chloride ions. You need to recognise that silver chloride has the formula AgCl.

Complex ion + AgNO3 -> AgCl

Notice that 1 Ag reacts with 1 Cl

but you have 2 times the moles of AgNO3 which you find out from the titration values. It tells you that they both react completely so the complex ion has to give up 2Cl- otherwise there would be a reactant left over.

Complex ion + 2AgNO3 -> 2AgCl

Which should make it obvious that the complex ion must give up 2 Cl-.

You're given the formula Cr(H2O)6Cl3 which can exist in a few ways which have already been shown. The reaction isn't ligand substitution so the 2Cl- lost must be attached outside the complex ion.
[Cr(H2O)6Cl]2+(Cl-)2 . (H2O)
Reply 294
Original post by thad33
You don't have to double the moles of Chloride ions. You need to recognise that silver chloride has the formula AgCl.

Complex ion + AgNO3 -> AgCl

Notice that 1 Ag reacts with 1 Cl

but you have 2 times the moles of AgNO3 which you find out from the titration values. It tells you that they both react completely so the complex ion has to give up 2Cl- otherwise there would be a reactant left over.

Complex ion + 2AgNO3 -> 2AgCl

Which should make it obvious that the complex ion must give up 2 Cl-.

You're given the formula Cr(H2O)6Cl3 which can exist in a few ways which have already been shown. The reaction isn't ligand substitution so the 2Cl- lost must be attached outside the complex ion.
[Cr(H2O)6Cl]2+(Cl-)2 . (H2O)


That makes a lot of sense thank you so much :smile:
Reply 295
Original post by ToLiveInADream
Hey, where are you getting these questions from? :smile: They look really good and I don't recognise them!


They're from my college :smile:
Reply 296
Original post by marioman
F324: Usualy 90/90 UMS each time. The raw mark required for this varies quite considerably, from 50/60 in June 2015 to 59/60 in January 2013.

F325: I've only done two papers so far but 131/150 and 135/150 (UMS) so far.


Push a bit harder for a couple more marks in F325. Just one or two raw marks can mean a lot of UMS in the upper boundaries for that paper. Then if you mess up a bit on F324 you can still comfortably get an A*.
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Reply 298
how r ppl getting on with unit 4 tips?
Original post by ranz
how r ppl getting on with unit 4 tips?


Unit 4 as in F324?
F324 is a really nice paper as long as you know your stuff. Make sure you know the spec inside out and then practice papers! Practice lots of NMR and Synthesis. Make sure you know which groups can react with which substances so you can apply this in synthesis.

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