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Original post by Kloppo
Mane ???? Who are we ffs ???
We're Liverpool FC, not Tottenham. We should sign big names, not mane!!!


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Reply 7862
Mane is a good player, could be very good for us. Not a signing I'd be against.
Remember when Southampton wanted £62mill for him though

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Dahoud is the one that really gets me salivating. If we could somehow pull it off it'd be amazing. Unlikely though.

Imagine something like:

Karius, Hector, Matip, Lovren, Clyne, Dahoud, Can, Mane, Firmino (maybe Gotze), Coutinho, Sturridge come mid August.

With a bench of Mignolet, Milner, Origi, Henderson, Lallana, Gomez and Ings.

The likes of Moreno, Flanagan, Ward, Lucas etc as squad players.

I'm in FM mode but on paper, something like that definitely looks like a squad that could get fourth.
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Original post by Pn94
Dahoud is the one that really gets me salivating. If we could somehow pull it off it'd be amazing. Unlikely though.

Imagine something like:

Karius, Hector, Matip, Lovren, Clyne, Dahoud, Can, Mane, Firmino (maybe Gotze), Coutinho, Sturridge come mid August.

With a bench of Mignolet, Milner, Origi, Henderson, Lallana, Gomez and Ings.

The likes of Moreno, Flanagan, Ward, Lucas etc as squad players.

I'm in FM mode but on paper, something like that definitely looks like a squad that could get fourth.


I guess selling Xhaka for big money makes it more difficult since they don't want to upset fans by selling all their best players.

Does go to show that we have a decent squad and just need a few good signings in the right places to look a lot better.
Original post by Pn94
Dahoud is the one that really gets me salivating. If we could somehow pull it off it'd be amazing. Unlikely though.

Imagine something like:

Karius, Hector, Matip, Lovren, Clyne, Dahoud, Can, Mane, Firmino (maybe Gotze), Coutinho, Sturridge come mid August.

With a bench of Mignolet, Milner, Origi, Henderson, Lallana, Gomez and Ings.

The likes of Moreno, Flanagan, Ward, Lucas etc as squad players.

I'm in FM mode but on paper, something like that definitely looks like a squad that could get fourth.


I completely agree - with us not having/getting to compete in Europe, I have absolutely no doubt that a squad similar to the one you listed would make top 4, especially with Klopp as our manager.

United, Chelsea and City will all have managerial changes and a whole host of new signings - I think the best thing we can do is get an excellent start to the campaign so that when our rivals get going, we have a good enough lead.

I can't see Leicester being anywhere near as good next season unless they buy some great players and the same goes for Spurs. I honestly think Arsenal are the dark horse for next season - they've finally signed a quality CM and if they can get a ST on top of that, I feel like they'll be serious challengers for the league.
Original post by Lúcio
I completely agree - with us not having/getting to compete in Europe, I have absolutely no doubt that a squad similar to the one you listed would make top 4, especially with Klopp as our manager.

United, Chelsea and City will all have managerial changes and a whole host of new signings - I think the best thing we can do is get an excellent start to the campaign so that when our rivals get going, we have a good enough lead.

I can't see Leicester being anywhere near as good next season unless they buy some great players and the same goes for Spurs. I honestly think Arsenal are the dark horse for next season - they've finally signed a quality CM and if they can get a ST on top of that, I feel like they'll be serious challengers for the league.


I expect Man Utd and Man City to have overhauls of their squads so perhaps they will have slow starts but in reality they will buy quality players so they will still probably edge out results even if it doesn't look pretty.

Fixture list will be interesting though whenever it comes out. Would be nice if Klopp got a few easy fixtures to start with. Early in the season might be the best time to play certain bigger teams too.
Original post by Zerforax
I expect Man Utd and Man City to have overhauls of their squads so perhaps they will have slow starts but in reality they will buy quality players so they will still probably edge out results even if it doesn't look pretty.

Fixture list will be interesting though whenever it comes out. Would be nice if Klopp got a few easy fixtures to start with. Early in the season might be the best time to play certain bigger teams too.


We don't need a massive rebuild and I think there will be more outgoings than incomings. Mourinho has identified a CB, CM, RW and ST which is exactly what we need

De Gea
Darmian Smalling CB Shaw
Schneiderlin Schweinsteiger/New CM
RW Rooney Martial
Ibrahimovic

Would be happy with that

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Reckon that United could have done with Xhaka.
Agree with that. I wouldn't exactly be worried if I was trying to attack against that side. Seems weak as hell defensively. only worry is the wall that is De Gea :redface:
Original post by sr90
We don't need a massive rebuild and I think there will be more outgoings than incomings. Mourinho has identified a CB, CM, RW and ST which is exactly what we need

De Gea
Darmian Smalling CB Shaw
Schneiderlin Schweinsteiger/New CM
RW Rooney Martial
Ibrahimovic

Would be happy with that

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So that's 4 new players just for the first XI and then how many more to get the squad into something Mourinho wants? Probably another 4-5? Your depth isn't what it used to be. And don't forget that Mourinho will not play LVG's style so you're overhauling your backroom staff and how your team plays too.
You do wonder what recruitment will be like for United now with Mourinho in charge.

Aside from the fact that youth development will undoubtedly take a hit, you've got the fact that spending may become even more blunderbuss.

In the past, in the best United sides, recruitment was always balanced. The best United sides I've seen have had star quality, but dependable sorts like Fletcher, even O'Shea, Brown et al.
LIVERPOOL: IT’S GÖTZE BE YOU OR HAS IT?

A few months ago, every UK journalist worth reading about Liverpool was breaking the news that Mario Götze was open to the idea of reuniting with Jürgen Klopp after falling out of favour at Bayern Munich.

Then things changed it looked as if a return to Borussia Dortmund was the most likely scenario. Götze then sacks his agent, Volker Struth, a man Munich were reportedly not too keen on. Next, Götze decides to pledge his future to Bayern Munich, claiming he’s spoken with Carlo Ancelotti and is willing to fight for his place ahead of next season. Then another twist, as Bayern CEO, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge goes public, telling Götze in no uncertain terms that he will most likely sit on the bench if he decides to stay at the club.

Hardly the kind of response Götze would have been hoping for.

So where does all this leave Liverpool? Joining the dots, I don’t think the transfer is dead just yet. Bayern have made it crystal clear he is not wanted at the club. Götze currently has a market value of around £20million. Should he decide to run down his contract at Bayern and leave on a free transfer at the end of next season, Bayern will lose out on a valuable financial asset. It is in their interests to sell Götze, who is well down the pecking order at the Allianz Arena, this summer.

Then there’s the Klopp factor. Götze became the player he is today under the management of Klopp at Dortmund, developing a strong personal relationship which continues today. Götze and Klopp keep in touch via text and you can’t imagine that the word ‘Liverpool’ has not crept into their discussions recently. You could hardly have a more convincing, charismatic man to sell his vision for Liverpool Football Club. Has that sell now stopped? Or is it ongoing?

I’d love to see Götze in a Liverpool shirt next season. He offers the kind of star quality we need to take us to the next level and would undoubtedly improve the starting XI. He knows Klopp’s methods well, so he’d be a perfect fit. Signing the scorer of the winning goal in the World Cup final what better statement of intent for the new season than that? He will only be 24 by the start of next season, so there would be plenty of time for Klopp to continue developing Götze’s talents.

It has been suggested that Liverpool’s failure to secure Champions League football next season by losing the Europa League final in Basel could have been a turning point in the Götze saga, with the player not willing to sacrifice European football for an entire season at this stage in his career.

But then you have to question Götze’s motivations. He will unlikely be playing much football if he stays at Bayern, regardless. Under Klopp, he would be a centrepiece of the side in an exciting new era for Liverpool a potential immediate hit with the fans. He would be joining his fellow compatriots, Emre Can and Loris Karius, as well as playing in the most competitive league in Europe. More than likely to be guaranteed a starting spot, it would be the ideal move to further his playing career, which has stalled in Germany.

There is a chance he’s holding out for a move to Dortmund, although many of the Yellow Wall fans remain bitter about his original departure and by rejoining his old club, he would effectively be taking the safe option rather than opting for a brave but potentially far more rewarding opportunity in England. Are Dortmund realistically going to usurp Bayern domestically anytime soon? It’s highly unlikely.

Whether Götze is still a Bayern player come the end of the transfer window is still up in the air. Another big club could join the race, especially with the player having Euro 2016 to showcase his talents. Liverpool could (and reportedly already have) present a hugely attractive offer both in terms of opportunity and financially and Klopp might yet convince Gotze to join. At this stage, it’s all a guessing game. A tactical chess match of PR and agent talk. No one really knows what’s going on.

If Götze would rather sit on the bench at Bayern than work under Klopp at Liverpool, then perhaps this isn’t a man we want at the club anyway. We need characters who are hungry for success, willing to play their part in building a brighter future for Liverpool. Götze would have the chance to do that, but we shouldn’t have to force his hand. If he’s not interested, we move on. Klopp will have other targets. A contingency plan will be in place. There are plenty of other good players out there who we could move for, while there are also arguably far more important areas in the side to strengthen before shelling out £20million on another attacking midfielder.

It’s easier said than done, but it’s perhaps not worth becoming emotionally invested in potential transfers with Liverpool. Too often in recent years it has ended in tears. Yevhen Konoplyanka. Willian. Alexis Sanchez. Memphis Depay. Alex Teixeira. The list goes on. If Götze becomes another one to add to that list, then so be it.
We’ve got a manager renowned for his ability to hone young talent and his reputation will hold a greater attraction to potential targets than his predecessor. Whether a move for Götze materialises eventually or not it won’t be the be all and end all. Let’s just enjoy the ride.


http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2016/05/liverpool-its-gotze-be-you-or-has-it/

Really would recommend The Anfield Wrap to people if you don't already read/listen to it. They do 2 free podcasts a week (Monday night and Thursday night at the moment) and all the articles are free to read.

The above sums up my view on the Gotze situation better than I could articulate :colondollar:
Original post by Mackay
You do wonder what recruitment will be like for United now with Mourinho in charge.

Aside from the fact that youth development will undoubtedly take a hit, you've got the fact that spending may become even more blunderbuss.

In the past, in the best United sides, recruitment was always balanced. The best United sides I've seen have had star quality, but dependable sorts like Fletcher, even O'Shea, Brown et al.


They had that generation of home grown players (some were stars like Beckham, Giggs and Scholes then others were dependable like Neville, Brown, O'Shea etc) which lasted them a very long time.

I'd expect Mourino will buy a lot for the short term. Players who can come in and do a great job today (even if they won't be there in 3-5 years time). But then that is what Man Utd need now. They need to win or compete for bigger prizes than just the FA Cup. Their whole financial model works on that basis.
Original post by sr90
We don't need a massive rebuild and I think there will be more outgoings than incomings. Mourinho has identified a CB, CM, RW and ST which is exactly what we need

De Gea
Darmian Smalling CB Shaw
Schneiderlin Schweinsteiger/New CM
RW Rooney Martial
Ibrahimovic

Would be happy with that

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That's almost half of your first XI changed and your squad depth will take a hit if you start getting rid of too many players. It's not like you don't have any extra EL games to play because you do. Arsenal and Chelsea don't need to make as many changes to the squad, those two teams have an advantage in the title challenge over everyone else imo.
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Original post by samir12
That's almost half of your first XI changed and your squad depth will take a hit if you start getting rid of too many players. It's not like you don't have any extra EL games to play because you do. Arsenal and Chelsea don't need to make as many changes to the squad, those two teams have an advantage in the title challenge over everyone else imo.


Spurs? I don't expect many changes and they are keeping the same manager.
Original post by Zerforax
Spurs? I don't expect many changes and they are keeping the same manager.


They are an unknown for me, can't tell if they will push on, stagnate or fall away.
Original post by samir12
They are an unknown for me, can't tell if they will push on, stagnate or fall away.


Yea I suppose. I'd still expect them to be stronger than Leicester.
Original post by Zerforax
Yea I suppose. I'd still expect them to be stronger than Leicester.


If Leicester keep Mahrez and Kante, they could still challenge but they won't be able to play almost the same XI every week.

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