Should we segregate the underclass in Britain?

No because this is the 21st century where we should be seeking to assist people not to isolate them from wider society simply because you don't approve of them .

Segregated but given rehabilitation and support to get them back on their feet?

I honestly think I hate people who say "ad hominem" more than the people who's opinions I disagree with. Not all unemployed people are "chavs" by the way. My mum is unemployed and I probably more well mannered and intelligent than most of the kids at my school. Money doesn't count for everything and hopefully one day I'll be earning money as a functional member of society because my mum had time to raise and support me, rather than the kids who are neglected and subsequently go off the rails or don't fulfill their full potential ect.

What if they're on their feet?

As I literally just said, I held down a job at the time. Perfect normally functioning member of society... until I leave the pub at 2am and sing Dropkick Murphys very loudly all the way home.

You're labouring under the delusion that these people need help. I didn't. Most people I know, who were in the same boat as me, also didn't. We worked a hard day, then got smashed or mashed. Ain't nothing wrong with that as long as no-one gets hurt eh?

What if they're on their feet?

As I literally just said, I held down a job at the time. Perfect normally functioning member of society... until I leave the pub at 2am and sing Dropkick Murphys very loudly all the way home.

You're labouring under the delusion that these people need help. I didn't. Most people I know, who were in the same boat as me, also didn't. We worked a hard day, then got smashed or mashed. Ain't nothing wrong with that as long as no-one gets hurt eh?

Segregated but given rehabilitation and support to get them back on their feet?

Wtf is "segregated?" Send us where then? lmao.

"Us" - so you're all the things on my list on a daily basis?

Lol stereotypes are just wrong. I think "chavs" get prejudice worse from white people than blacks. Because to say such vicious things to blacks is racist, but to "chavs," "yobs" and "neds" it's like well you're white so it's not wrong. No it is. We've taken on generations of poverty and apparently discrimination beyond our control as well. But not everyone is just sat around. I know some shiftless "upper" class people as well.

Wait what? Mate are you still "smashed?"

But you weren't all of the things on my list on a daily basis, were you? That's the "underclass".

"Underclass" is such a vile classification too. Have some respect for your fellow human. Dear god.

Give me a couple of hours and I will be

NB: I don't drink nearly as much as I used to. I'm a lightweight by comparison



Of course not. But does that matter? Aside from the obvious health concerns (which the individual is solely responsible for anyway), what's the difference between someone getting pissed every day and being a dick and someone getting pissed at the weekend and being a dick?

You have a very narrow, unnecessarily complicated, unwarranted, and flat-out wrong opinion of what the underclass is. There are plenty of people with jobs who willingly engage in activities outside of the law, who enjoy getting smashed, who do this, that, and the other, and they're totally "normal" (normal being subjective) people.

My point was, where do these people fit into your little scheme?
How you can you ship someone off to rehab when they've got a job to go to?
How can you segregate them without being oppressive?
What's your contingency plan for when this inevitably blows up in your face?

Give me a couple of hours and I will be

NB: I don't drink nearly as much as I used to. I'm a lightweight by comparison

Of course not. But does that matter? Aside from the obvious health concerns (which the individual is solely responsible for anyway), what's the difference between someone getting pissed every day and being a dick and someone getting pissed at the weekend and being a dick?

You have a very narrow, unnecessarily complicated, unwarranted, and flat-out wrong opinion of what the underclass is. There are plenty of people with jobs who willingly engage in activities outside of the law, who enjoy getting smashed, who do this, that, and the other, and they're totally "normal" (normal being subjective) people.

My point was, where do these people fit into your little scheme?
How you can you ship someone off to rehab when they've got a job to go to?
How can you segregate them without being oppressive?
What's your contingency plan for when this inevitably blows up in your face?

Your list is **** but again where are you going to send this "underclass" You'd have to reorganise everything, legislatively, as to who is a "chav" and for example, what schools to send them, which means phase out the current schools and send the current students elsewhere just so that the "chavs" can be "segregated" in their own place that is so realistic! Did you think this through? ...And then you'd have to do the same to neighbourhoods, what area is reserved that can take in these relocated "chavs?"

It's like the Trail of Tears when the American colonialists made the Natives isolate in a certain part of the country, all in a group. Or the concentration camps in the Holocaust!?

Your 1st post worried me but this seems all right laddy I was just saying like...you said "these people don't need help" I mean that was kinda worded wrong.

I had (and still do) have trouble working out what OP meant. S/he said "on alcohol/drugs". Well does that mean likes a few drinks and the occasional smoke, or full on 24/7 rat-arsed? I'd imagine the latter, but people (tee-totallers, etc) can be funny about these things and s/he worded it very vaguely.

Given that OP seems rather opinionated about this, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they thought that anyone who went anywhere near a pub was a terrible person who needed a short sharp shock.

So what would you classify as "underclass"?

Someone who is unemployed. That's it. No other social connotations needed. They're not working, therefore they are outside of a class system based upon what job you do.

Pubs should only be allowed to serve green tea.