Anti-Trump Supporters Being Racist to Black Trump Supporter

Please, look at how much hate is thrown towards black republicans for example. It is certainly not a fringe minority.

It's been explained you to multiple times about the context in Trump's statements, you obviously aren't interested in that because it is far easier to bleat things like racist/bigoted etc like a braindead sheep.

Baaa baaa back to you.

It would have to be said that this sort of behaviour and way of thinking could have stemmed from the idea that white people are superior to black people , having a sort of psychological effect. So much so that its led to a self destructive and even a possible self hatred amongst blacks. I do think as white people, we do owe black people for, imo,the greatest act of evil to have ever occurred (that's why I get really upset when I hear other white people complaining about racism towards them, because we live in a white world, there is no systematic prejudice against us, like their was and still is against black people) . I'm probably one of the very few white people who think this but I've noticed that liberals only want to condemn black people whilst promoting lgbt stuff. And this sort of "move over, you've had you're time, get over it" thing from the left, is incredibly unhelpful to blacks. There is still a scar and though I do believe that sometimes, some black people don't always do the utmost to better themselves, it's because they were set back a good 150 years as slaves, leaving a legacy of destruction. I have loads of black friends and when you see things from their point of view and even when going out with them sometimes, you notice things; how they get stared at particularly as an interracial couple (it's not something I actually ever noticed until around last year) and a lot of people do prejudge black people. & with the influx of migrants and people from
3rd world countries, introducing their 3rd world prejudice to England ( an incident my friend had on the tube with a racist immigrant) it's most certainly not going to improve. Because we've got outsiders coming into our country making our own black citizens feeling unwelcomed and this doesn't help with black people constantly feeling like outsiders in a very precarious situation.

But anyway I'm not black so I don't know how racism feels and I would never try to discredit black peoples' suffering or equate the "racism" I receive, to the racism that happened/happens to black people. Because it takes a great deal of strength to push through and be successful, and black people are really making a lot of progress whilst white people are actually falling behind. As someone who has always had quite a few black friends I can tell you I've never witnessed any "abhorrent" behaviour from
Any of them and but in our society that we've created black is synonymous with bad and it does need to be changed.

People like you are part of the problem. You're afflicted with another psychological malady that sadly exists without our own society. You're obsessed with guilt and racism to an extreme. It's natural instinct for people to want to support the underdog and this is from where victim identities gain their power. We're self destructively too nice. We're afraid to even give constructive criticism to other races or find any fault in others but ourselves.

However the particular issue here that I am discussing is one in the black community. It is interesting to look into some of the origins of that but does more harm than good to turn that into an us and them thing in the sense that some debt is owed or that we're to have some form of guilt.

All that predominantly matters now are the significant problems that remain and I don't mean being looked at funny. For a lot of black people it's that they can't be anything but black people in a sense. In a conservative traditionalist sense. This is an identity crisis of sorts. For the person being called an Uncle Tom or "white inside" that's little different to how Muslims react to non-Muslims, people they consider posers and basically apostates. This is a complex problem that isn't entirely for white people to solve. We can describe the problem but ultimately to go too far in solving it undermines the rights for others to self improvement, to take credit for their own accomplishments, their natural development and so on. Most of this damage had been embedded within them and is self perpetuating from within.

I've often been an extreme minority among black people and I can assure you that the worst behaviour among the generations born here is inspired by foul American cultures. As I say it has many origins. One of them is a sense of not being allowed the best things or to succeed in the white man's world so they abandon good things such as education.

This might come as a shock to you but I have spent much of my life persecuted, excluded, segregated and some of the things you're going on about are a bit along the lines of extreme sensitivity. I do start to wonder if you are not seeing these things so easily because you're looking out for them.

In my experience where it really matters black people are looked upon poorly for behaving differently in a way that is repugnant to many and a sore to the senses, not so much for looking differently in terms of skin colour. One thing you can ignore, one you can't. The person in the video with no silly vanity, talking sense about people acting like savages, I can dig him. The other person attacking the guy for not being "black" and imposing some rather disagreeable characteristics that I and other people wont like is basically saying that black people can't be something white people like and they have to be hated. This sucks really.

I disagree entirely. I feel no guilt, because I've done nothing wrong. I love everybody and look for the best in everybody but that doesn't mean that my ancestors also did. The legacy of slavery isn't something that's made up, it's true. There was a period of being stagnant that set the race back a good century at least and therefore there are some repairs that need to be made.

Like I said, there are some black people who don't try their hardest to better themselves and their failure is their own fault but that doesn't mean that racism (and laziness) isn't a reason for their defeatist attitude, with the belief that they'll never be good enough because they don't meet the standards needed for success; BEING WHITE. This is obviously not the case for a lot of people but still...

& im by no means looking for anything, it's something my friends began to point out to me. And then slowly I began to feel people's eyes on me while we're out and then suddenly looking away, people having a slightly foul attitude to my black friends but being really nice to me etc. I'm not overly sensitive at all ! & there another white person goes with this victimisation crap about being "persecuted and excluded". Were you enslaved ?

I don't think that's what he's trying to say, I think he believes that black people should be on the liberal side (which is obviously shows his ignorance because it was actually the republicans that helped a lot of black people and tried to end slavery) which does show the idea that blackness is a characteristic that has certain connotations. Like I said, I have many black friends and they are all different and lovely people. Many people aren't racist but do have loads of prejudices and stereotypes, most which are true ( as they say, there's no smoke without fire) and harmless as long as they don't interfere with a persons judgement.

In particular I'm aiming this for black people and Jews, not Muslims, gays etc.

I disagree entirely. I feel no guilt, because I've done nothing wrong. I love everybody and look for the best in everybody but that doesn't mean that my ancestors also did. The legacy of slavery isn't something that's made up, it's true. There was a period of being stagnant that set the race back a good century at least and therefore there are some repairs that need to be made.

Like I said, there are some black people who don't try their hardest to better themselves and their failure is their own fault but that doesn't mean that racism (and laziness) isn't a reason for their defeatist attitude, with the belief that they'll never be good enough because they don't meet the standards needed for success; BEING WHITE. This is obviously not the case for a lot of people but still...

& im by no means looking for anything, it's something my friends began to point out to me. And then slowly I began to feel people's eyes on me while we're out and then suddenly looking away, people having a slightly foul attitude to my black friends but being really nice to me etc. I'm not overly sensitive at all ! & there another white person goes with this victimisation crap about being "persecuted and excluded". Were you enslaved ?

I don't think that's what he's trying to say, I think he believes that black people should be on the liberal side (which is obviously shows his ignorance because it was actually the republicans that helped a lot of black people and tried to end slavery) which does show the idea that blackness is a characteristic that has certain connotations. Like I said, I have many black friends and they are all different and lovely people. Many people aren't racist but do have loads of prejudices and stereotypes, most which are true ( as they say, there's no smoke without fire) and harmless as long as they don't interfere with a persons judgement.

In particular I'm aiming this for black people and Jews, not Muslims, gays etc.

You seem an open minded person. Take a look at another point of view.
Tom Sowell, somebody that has lived through what you are talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6E_8wPz7ks

Its 12 mins long but if you don't have time at least watch from 7.20 on liberals and Race.

It's a shame we dont have video evidence documenting all the racist Trump supports who practically disown their kids when they find out they have friends who are minorities.

I find that hard to believe when you talk about white people owing them something based on fairly superficial reasoning and historic knowledge. That notion supports a pretty hardline form of black supremacy. It is also as flawed as many other historical views of race have been including the ones you've cited.

What little vagaries there are of racism today can be easily overcome by making an effort which really applies to everyone. Plenty of societies don't see everyone trying their hardest. Two problems in the black communities is the prohibitions of some of the basics and that often every failure is attributed to racism creating a kind of psychosis.

Black people are not enslaved today and they are not actually unique either in having ancestors that have suffered since suffering has been common to the world since as long as history records. It's only recently that globalisation has taken hold and that gentleman's rules have been established.

If people don't like black people in social settings unfortunately that's tough doodoo. You can't force people to like you or others. Popularity is at people's personal discretion. However if I am to be honest I do actually have a negative reaction to black people. I am not comfortable around them. One of the reasons is cultural resistance. If people don't speak normally, pursue normal interests, are well studied, like different conversation styles, etc then it simple isn't going to be easy to integrate with them. Black people that insist on being radically black are not actually easy to communicate with, have fun with, etc. Just the same as you're not going to want to go out for a drink with your Muslim friend because he simply doesn't. You wont want to hang around female Muslims because they're more off limits and you're probably wasting your time there especially since to marry them you'll have to convert. Not having much in common with people generally makes it less satisfying to spend time with them. That's cultural impedance. People follow the path of least resistance and consider things such as "value for money".

On the other side of it is that basically I don't like to be around black people because sooner or later someone is going to bring up race issues in a stupid way. I'd rather we simply be segregated, separated because the race card will be played, you will be accused of racism, you wont be able to co-exist together in a sense. I do not feel comfortable when speaking to them at work because if I say something that has some secondary meaning they decide to find offensive with their personal interpretation then I could likely be up in front of a tribunal or more likely some vigilante will jump in and put me on disciplinary action for something entirely innocent. Anti-racism hysteria puts my every interaction in anyway related to other races under intense and unfair scrutiny.

This might be a shocking verdict but it's what it's coming to. I grew up around many black people as a child, I played with them and generally got along. Over time unfortunately they often take very different paths. There is within the black community a strong ideology of that black and white people can't get along. I would say more strongly than in the white community. In fact in the white community there is an equal opposite pathological mindset that these people must get along with a witch hunt against "racism". If we are to do our part, it's to end this stupid witch hunt.

Personally as a black man. I feel this guy is a joke but you've always had black people that make it their duty to suck up to white people - Eg President Obama

But I prefer white people who are brave and have the guts to be racist, rather than be like what most white people are like that is cowardly and scared when they are around black people. I guess that's why the internet gives white people a chance to say what they want without no comeback because after all the people who run these sites are also racist and white supremacist

Seriously? Obama despises white people.

What kind of racism are you referring to exactly? Surely it's possible to be not scared of black people AND not be a racist?

And I believe that the people who run this site are racist but white supremacist is a push, I'd say they are self-hating white people.

mindless drivel

Yeah I can see why you got banned.

See that's the thing. Because you can't justify racism with cold logic. White racism is your feeling. Deep down you know your wrong. This is why when I debate with white people they chicken out (like you just did) and then try and save face by trying to come with some sarcastic reply

Obviously I feel a certain amount of discomfort with the fact that my ancestors and my race in general carried out such evil acts. But not guilt. And like I said because black people were set back for so many years there is a need to give them a slight boost to get them equal, if you want to call that black supremacy then so be it.

I completely believe that people are in control of their own lives and therefore have the power to change their lives but again being set back by a century hardly gives you a level playing field. But that said I also don't believe in positive discrimination and affirmative action etc.

Of course people have the right to dislike or not be surrounded by people they don't want to be surrounded by, that doesn't make them bad people. It's their right. Some black people do have a chip on their shoulder and possibly do need to look to the future to progress but...
I however am the complete opposite, in general I've always clicked a bit more with black people but obviously still have friends of my own race. Don't you think maybe that by having this preconceived notion that "I don't like being around black people because they're ..." Makes you slightly unpleasant and that for you were to let that go then you may begin to enjoy their company. Some people do need to get thicker skin , but maybe you shouldn't try so hard to be politically correct and just speak your mind, I find that a lot of black people respond positively to honesty and up frontness . They probably won't get offended. If anybody gets offended it's the feminists, the Muslims and the "trans gendered cis queer folk homosexual" people 🙄

Pretty sure I've debated in the past with your previous account and there is absolutely no reasoning with you. So before you get banned again, don't slam the door on the way out and take that giant chip on your shoulder with you.

Yeah I can see why you got banned.

There's no point in trying to stop anything. It's pretty much impossible for Trump not to win, people underestimate how stupid Americans are.