"Feminism is useless in the first world"

I was thinking that your comment was on point, until I read 'women are the weaker gender'.. what why and how!?

Physically, if you get an average man and an average woman, the man will be stronger and therefore puts the woman in the position of a victim. If a man wants to take something from a woman then he very well has the natural means to do so whereas women don't have the same natural means to defend themself against a 6'4 250 pound muscle man and therefore need to take extra precautions.

I guess so but should the woman (or the man) ever be expected to take extra precautions?

is it okay to harass or even rape a woman if she's wearing a short skirt? does that argument mean she should wear jeans to a club instead? should she not get drunk?

Yet because men are the stronger ones, they can get drunk and be topless?

Hahah unfortunately I'm being hypocritical because I don't bother getting as drunk anymore becasue of how the men seem to act hahahha... how sad that I can't enjoy myself anymore

I guess so but should the woman (or the man) ever be expected to take extra precautions?

is it okay to harass or even rape a woman if she's wearing a short skirt? does that argument mean she should wear jeans to a club instead? should she not get drunk?

Yet because men are the stronger ones, they can get drunk and be topless?

Hahah unfortunately I'm being hypocritical because I don't bother getting as drunk anymore becasue of how the men seem to act hahahha... how sad that I can't enjoy myself anymore

It's amazing how feminism can turn the response of I wouldn't rape you into a rape threat these days.

It was in response to how common rape has become.

I assume you're talking about Sargon? I think they took it, given the "even" ("I wouldn't even rape you" as meaning "you're too ugly for me" rather than "I wouldn't rape you on moral principle". However in context it doesn't sound like that, as he makes no reference to her appearance and she isn't even being shown at that point, so one can hardly think he is insulting her in that manner. If I had just said "I wouldn't rape you", I think it may possibly have drawn less attention.

Yes I am
When you look at the video and see how he is responding to the article she published then you can see why he said even.

It's amazing how newspapers have decided it is threats as well.

Yep, true. It just shows how careful you have to be with words with people of this ilk lol. You would think Sargon punched a nun in the face or something the way he's being chastised

Again, the responses here only go to show how much feminism glosses over any male issues. It's why I say feminism being about equality is BS. Here are stats posted by someone in the other thread. Can any female here HONESTLY tell me that we hear anywhere near as much about these issues as we do about 'the gender pay gap'?

*note - from my own reading these last few days, and my own work experience, I do think the 'gender pay gap' is massively blown out of proportion and I think there are genuine reasons for it (women taking time out of work, often being less ambitious in the workplace on average etc). I personally have never seen women held back in the workplace and know many female senior managers, parnters, directors etc. I've even seen preference for women in the workplace and recently I've read that women up to a certain age (around about the average time of motherhood) actually earn more than men. So if this is the best that feminists have then I really do wonder. Anyway....the stats:


Unsheltered Homeless (2009)
Women – 12,000 – 4%
Men – 240,000 – 96%

Life Expectancy (2006)
Women – 80.8 Years
Men – 75.7 Years

Suicides (2008)
Women – 7,585 - 19%
Men – 28,450 - 81%

Deaths by Homicide (2004)
Women – 3,856 – 20%
Men – 14,717 – 80%

Deaths from Cancer (2004)
Women – 269,819
Men – 290,069

Deaths from HIV/AIDS (2004)
Women – 3,357
Men – 8,756

Federal Funds for Sex Specific Cancer Research
Women – Breast Cancer – $631,000,000 - 40,000 Deaths
Men – Prostate Cancer – $300,000,000 - 33,000 Deaths

Deaths on the Job (2010)
Women – 355 - 7%
Men – 4,192 - 93%

Injuries on the Job (2007)
Women – 36%
Men – 64%

College Enrolment (2009)
Women – 58% - 11,658,000
Men – 42% - 8,770,000

Affirmative Action Education Programs (Gender Specific)
Women – Yes
Men – No

Unemployment Rates (2010)
Women – 8.6% – 6,199,000
Men – 10.5% - 8,626,000

Average Hours Worked Per Week (2010)
Women – 36.1
Men – 40.2

High School Graduation Rates (2005)
Women – 72%
Men – 65%

Incarceration Rates (2009)
Women – 114,979 - 7%
Men – 1,502,490 - 93%

Child Custody Rates
Women – 11,268,000 custodial mothers
Men – 2,907,000 custodial fathers

US Military Deaths From 1950 – 2010
Women – 139 - 0.001%
Men – 100,063 - 99.99%

Federally Funded Battered Shelters
Women – 2,000+ $300,000,000 per year
Men – None – $0

Federally Funded Health Offices and Research 1970 – Present (not including cancer research)
Women Only – Office, Projects and Programs 70+ – Funds – $100,000,000,000
Men Only – None – $0

Forced Selective Service
Women – No
Men – Yes

Drug and Alcohol Addiction and Abuse Rates (2010)
Women – 5.8%
Men – 12.2%

Divorce filings
Women - 85%
Men - 15%

Doctor Degrees(2010)
Women - 51.6%
Men - 48.4%

Master’s Degrees(2010)
Women - 60.3%
Men - 39.7%

Receive Alimony
Women: 97%
Men: 3%?

Edit - I think it is fair to say that if even a few of these stats favoured men over women, we would never hear the end of it.

I've just been told this stuff doesn't matter until we have solved the world then the less fortunate deserve no help if they are white or men

You need to EDJOCATE URSELV

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11760417/Air-conditioning-in-your-office-is-sexist.-True-story.html

ITS 2016 SMH

Investigate the gender pay gap some more first, do a load of studies, write a load of articles telling men how easy they have it and then if there is found to be a 1% difference in pay in some areas then 'positively discriminate' in favour of women. Only then is it acceptable to talk or hear about minor issues such as men commiting suicide or making up 96% of the homeless population. Girl Power!!! xoxoxox

Notice how the females on this thread who were arguing their cases went quiet? That BBC link on sexism I posted can't be disputed.

@jessphillips MEN DO NOT NEED THEIR OWN RIGHTS DAY. Sort out racism, misogyny and disablism first, then maybe we'll talk

@jessphillips I'm a man - and I believe the idea of "International Men's Day" is rather pathetic. I presume you won't rape me

@jessphillips White men are the single most privileged group in society. Stop with the straw man arguments

Then I mentioned a few of the things you mentioned and got instantly blocked, I have discussed these things calmly a few times but you can't do that with these white knights online

Wow...is that the politician?

Yeah, I saw a few 'white knight' comments...actually laughed out loud at one it was such a pathetic attempt to impress a certain gender.

Why do you start this drama lol

Who's this directed at, and what drama?

The creator of this thread, everyone knows these threads start drama.