I think Britain is going to remain in the EU.

my argument isn't using "economists" because economists never accurately predict anything like this. like I said, if they got the euro argument totally wrong, why would they get this argument correct? how can you take them seriously? also, it is extremely clear that the EU is stagnating - why do economists think we should remain in a stagnating trade bloc? there must be some kind of invalidation to this. just like the euro episode.

why do I get the feeling that your making all of this up as you go?

the EU is a protectionist bloc that hinders international trade in favour of its own inward-looking trade.

So your saying that the EU doesn't like to trade with Africa and South America and Asia? Can you prove that? We all know that the EU has free-trade between members but since when does the EU make it worse for international trade? Please prove that as well. When you have properly backed up point number 1 we can move on to the next one, your not an MP so don't say "facts" without backing them up with hard evidence

Don't accuse me of not understanding basic english when you confuse importer and exporter s

You should care because it clearly has a direct impact on the economic situation of the UK and you are implying this referendum is about pleasing large corporations every whim the most.

And wrong, the UK imports more $ wise net than france does

I'm remaining completely neutral in this. I genuinely want to see why you think about it the way you do; I'm starting to understand the LEAVE arguments further.

Okay, but economists surely understand the economy and finance better than the average dude like, say, you, no? If not, why do you think that is and how have you drawn the conclusions you have drawn? With all due respect, it clearly isn't obvious that the EU is stagnating - more disagree with that assertion than agree, according to the polls, even if it is a narrow win.

It is a weakness being in the EU but it is an asset to play on if we leave because you need a customer more than you do needing to buy stuff we need to open our trade to the world, why should a worker from romania have the right to work here any more than a a mexican or america? its ridiculous to have free movement stick your union up your ass.

As much as I want us to leave, the reality is that we probably won't.

It's depressing.

So you want MExicans working here as well?

If you want evidence about the economy, just look at the pound. The second worst performing currency out of the 16 major world currencies.

I'm remaining completely neutral in this. I genuinely want to see why you think about it the way you do; I'm starting to understand the LEAVE arguments further.

Okay, but economists surely understand the economy and finance better than the average dude like, say, you, no? If not, why do you think that is and how have you drawn the conclusions you have drawn? With all due respect, it clearly isn't obvious that the EU is stagnating - more disagree with that assertion than agree, according to the polls, even if it is a narrow win.

Let's be serious. It is about immigration.

He will bring up things like the Euro, even though Economists at the time said that it would be a bad idea to join. Even the IMF said it wouldn't be a good idea for the UK to join. He knows this and will continue to perpetuate the lie.

Just look at the pound. The second worst performing currency out of 1, this year and that was before the decrease in value over the past 2 weeks.

Within the EU.

Its pretty laughable how your caricature brexiters to Racists or BNP lite supporters its a joke, you seriously don't see the problems that EU brings and the fact that they cannot be addressed whatsoever whilst we remain?

It is about getting a good deal for Britain and having a fairer immigration system which invites labour which we need, want and those who contribute not take. Anyone who satisfies those conditions is welcome, nobody should be given unlimited access purely because of what country they happen to be born in.

You only demean your own argument and alienate those on the fence.

Never did mate. You just didn't understand when I was talking about tit.

You confused Net rather deliberately to miss lead, you're only making yourself look a bell by getting rude keyboard warrior lol.


Nope......I said that companies would decrease investment and provided evidence. On the other hand....you have provided none.

You don't know that, various companies have said various things.. If we all knew where companies were investing and when there would be no point being a stock broker since the future would be written der.

Also France imports more

I said NET importer before and you deliberately tried to shift the goal posts. UK imports more net look it up.

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Intra-EU_trade_in_goods_-_recent_trends#Intra-EU_trade_in_goods_balance
Seriously your attitude stinks if you think debating is thinking you're smarter than others without addressing the arguments head on you ain't going to get far.

I'm remaining completely neutral in this. I genuinely want to see why you think about it the way you do; I'm starting to understand the LEAVE arguments further.

Okay, but economists surely understand the economy and finance better than the average dude like, say, you, no? If not, why do you think that is and how have you drawn the conclusions you have drawn? With all due respect, it clearly isn't obvious that the EU is stagnating - more disagree with that assertion than agree, according to the polls, even if it is a narrow win.

You need to ask yourself, are these economists funded by the EU? ... you will find a huge amount receive millions in funding from the EU. Not just economists either

I'm not entirely sure how the issues of immigration will halt by leaving the E.U. though...

Well, it won't if they want to have access to the single market. Quite frankly, nothing will change if they want access to the single market.

However, I don't think Brexiters are really that concerned with the economy. That is why they talk about the "long term" without specifying what it is.

Errr no. France is also bigger net importer. 89 billion vs 79 billon. Figure 4

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Intra-EU_trade_in_goods_-_recent_trends#Intra-EU_trade_in_goods_balance

I haven't been rude. I simply provided facts. You should vote to Remain.

You showed one statement you haven't showed conclusive proof of anything. There is nothing but statements and hearsay there can never be certainties before the fact that's just basic logic.

Have a look at how many jobs are being created and the quality of them. It isn't a success story if you compare it to the general cost of living and any grad knows it. Fact 88% of EU migrants would not satisfy the british emigration standards expected of overseas migrants.

Vote brexit

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-poll-idUSKCN0YR101