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(AS) OCR Chemistry salters depth paper (10/6/16)

How did everyone find the paper? I have no idea but it was better than the breadth paper for sure

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Original post by stm_
How did everyone find the paper? I have no idea but it was better than the breadth paper for sure


I thought it was good :smile: the branched carboxylic acid was a bit mean and the pV=nRT question was also a bit mean with all the units
Reply 2
I did my enthalpy profile diagram the wrong way!! I'm so DUMBBB! The rest of it was okay though. How many marks do you think I've lost for that question? I am so annoyed at myself for getting it wrong!!!
Also what did you guys get for the structure at the end?
Original post by aliyah99
I did my enthalpy profile diagram the wrong way!! I'm so DUMBBB! The rest of it was okay though. How many marks do you think I've lost for that question? I am so annoyed at myself for getting it wrong!!!
Also what did you guys get for the structure at the end?


methylpropanoic acid :smile:
Original post by elisha.marsh
methylpropanoic acid :smile:


Oops :/

I got ethyl ethanoate (ester). What's the difference regarding IR spectra and mass spectra? They both have the same molecular formula.
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Original post by aliyah99
I did my enthalpy profile diagram the wrong way!! I'm so DUMBBB! The rest of it was okay though. How many marks do you think I've lost for that question? I am so annoyed at myself for getting it wrong!!!
Also what did you guys get for the structure at the end?


What enthalpy profile diagram? Did I miss a page or something?

Edit: oh, you mean the Hess cycle?
Reply 6
Original post by Jamesinatr
What enthalpy profile diagram? Did I miss a page or something?

Edit: oh, you mean the Hess cycle?


Yeah that one! But I just looked in book and I thiink I just drew the arrow going downwards instead of upwards so not as bad as I thought!
Reply 7
Original post by elisha.marsh
methylpropanoic acid :smile:


Yeahh I got that too! But I didn't name it though :/ oops,
Original post by aliyah99
Yeahh I got that too! But I didn't name it though :/ oops,


I just googled the name :smile:

The specification says we don't need to be able to name esters, carboxylic acids, acid anhydrides etc, so a structural formula and the word 'ester' should be fine I would guess.
Original post by aliyah99
Yeah that one! But I just looked in book and I thiink I just drew the arrow going downwards instead of upwards so not as bad as I thought!


Wait, what was the question? I thought they gave you combustion and asked you to work out formation, so aren't the arrows supposed to point downwards?
Original post by Jamesinatr
I just googled the name :smile:

The specification says we don't need to be able to name esters, carboxylic acids, acid anhydrides etc, so a structural formula and the word 'ester' should be fine I would guess.


Okay that's alright then. But I thought it was a carboxylic acid not an ester?
Original post by Jamesinatr
Wait, what was the question? I thought they gave you combustion and asked you to work out formation, so aren't the arrows supposed to point downwards?


Ohh noo I wasn't talking about the Hess's cycle, it was the enthalpy profile diagram.
Also Jamesinatr when did you have to work out the enthalpy change of formation? I do not remember a question on that!?
Original post by aliyah99
Also Jamesinatr when did you have to work out the enthalpy change of formation? I do not remember a question on that!?


I probably misread it or forgot the question then, sorry
Original post by aliyah99
Okay that's alright then. But I thought it was a carboxylic acid not an ester?


I guess it is then. Do you remember what the IR peak was?
Original post by Jamesinatr
Oops :/

I got ethyl ethanoate (ester). What's the difference regarding IR spectra and mass spectra? They both have the same molecular formula.


I got ethyl ethanoate as well
Reply 16
For an O-H bond, does the peak always have to be broad because it wasn't in the last question
Original post by Jamesinatr
I guess it is then. Do you remember what the IR peak was?


I found the c=o peak and the o-h peak I don't remember the exact numbers but it was in the range on the formula sheet.
Original post by aliyah99
I found the c=o peak and the o-h peak I don't remember the exact numbers but it was in the range on the formula sheet.


The o-h peak should have been broad then but it was not. I found no o-h peak.
Reply 19
Original post by Joshua98
The o-h peak should have been broad then but it was not. I found no o-h peak.

Same, because it said in brackets it should be broad that's why I got a C=H (c-h?) bond instead

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