Do you think uni is value for money?

That shows that a degree is useful then since it helps you get jobs. So they're willing to pay for it and aren't being forced.

But students should only pay what's fair. Can you honestly say students get value for money? What are they actually getting for that 9k fee?

A better chance of getting a good job. Graduates do earn more than non-graduates on average so the degree is an investment in a way that pays off in the future.

No, that is a long-term benefit of having a degree. What are students getting right now for their fee? University facilities haven't improved and the number of contact hours hasn't changed since fees were trebled, so I ask again, are students getting value for money?

That doesn't really matter though. Most people don't really care that much about teaching quality because it is the opportunities with a degree that matter, as well as the university experience and the networks that will be developed at uni. If you want teaching quality, go to a top institution like Oxbridge, Imperial, UCL and the like. Most other universities are there as an investment really which will help open up opportunities.

Also, the cost of providing the facilities and the teaching is actually a lot more than the £9000 a year, which is heavily subsidised. A degree actually costs a lot more to provide so you're actually getting a bargain at £9000 a year.

That doesn't really matter though. Most people don't really care that much about teaching quality because it is the opportunities with a degree that matter, as well as the university experience and the networks that will be developed at uni. If you want teaching quality, go to a top institution like Oxbridge, Imperial, UCL and the like. Most other universities are there as an investment really which will help open up opportunities.

Also, the cost of providing the facilities and the teaching is actually a lot more than the £9000 a year, which is heavily subsidised. A degree actually costs a lot more to provide so you're actually getting a bargain at £9000 a year.

It should matter and I think a lot of people do care. The teaching quality and facilities at Imperial, LSE, UCL etc haven't changed since 2012 either so students there should be just as angry as anyone else.

Where are you getting your information from? The government used to subsidise degrees, but in 2012 virtually all public funding was cut. That's why university fees were raised in the first place, to make up the shortfall in government funding. The cost of an Oxbridge degree is more than £9,000 because they have more contact hours with tutors and professors, but the cost of running a non-clinical degree at any other university is not 9k. Humanities degrees actually cost much less than 9k.

I don't really see how you've physically lost 9k, unless you paid upfront? And surely it gave you life experience, cooking, managing money, time, social life ?

I'm going back to university in October. In Germany it is definitely value for money. I would never do this in the UK, of course.

! Good luck, what will you be studying in Germany?

Thanks. I will study Statistics while working 20 hours/week in Software Development.
I've decided I want to go into "Big Data" later.

Oh nice. Where abouts? If there was a degree in a subject I was interested in that was taught in English, I'd be there in a flash. I kind of regret doing French and not German now.

In Dortmund. Yes, (with few exceptions) you'd have to speak German. But France also has no tuition fees I think (?), you could study in French in Switzerland, which has very low fees (like CHF 500 per semester), and I think Scandinavian countries generally have no fees either, and I think they offer some degrees in English. What subjects would you be interested in?

No, it is student loan. But having student loan will affect getting mortgages in the future (saying that no one from our generation will be able to buy a house) & no I didn't live away thank god.

No one is forcing you to go. If you say no, DON'T GO - simple solution people.