OCR Chemistry A Exam Thread (Breadth - May 27 2016 and Depth - June 10 2016)

that's great - what did you put for the two alcohols you had to draw... I think I put pent-2-ol and pent-3-ol? probs 4 marks lost but wanna check

I drew those too but I think we're wrong. Was that really 4 marks?

Of course you don't need my permission, I was just suggesting that you refrain from posting unhelpful image macros in reply to someone asking for a reminder of one of the questions.

I'm not sure how much I buy into the whole 'the current paper cannot be released because it will be used as a mock' reasoning. Good sixth form students are old enough to understand why they shouldn't look at mock papers before sitting them. Plus, there is enough discussion about the content of the paper on forums like this one that anyone determined enough to cheat on a mock can do so anyway.

Were the real papers easier than the specimen papers?

It is a public forum and I do not need your permission to post anything.

I come on here to help and give advice to students - there are several I have helped a lot believe me. However, I am not posting the paper because it should not be posted. The paper will be used by teachers for next year's mock and as such has not been released to the public by the exam board who also own the copyright.

You're not helping students, you're just telling them if they were right or wrong. And If you were a good teacher you'd understand that rather than keep telling students where they went wrong etc you'd tell them to just leave it as it's done with and instead encourage them to focus on their upcoming exams.

Just wanted to know if it said identify the two organic products or explain why you would get two different products and which was the major and minor product...

ALL of the above

Oh well, thanks. I didn't draw the minor product but I did explain Markovnikov's rule and relative stabilities of the intermediate carbocations (minor had secondary vs tertiary for the major), and named the products. If the mechanism was all right in the exam do you reckon it will be 5 out of 6? Or will it be stuck at level 2...

Impossible to say without the mark scheme. Doubt it's level 2 but don't waste precious time dwelling on it.

it did

You're right. All of my students fail because I just mock them. I am a terrible teacher and a troll.

I suggest you drop this silly obsession with Q3c and your disbelief that it says to give two structures and that you move on and concentrate on any upcoming exams. I thought I was helping by settling a point of fact between you and another poster. Good luck!

Yh you had to draw both products to see if a tertiary carbocations could form, as well as the secondary carbonation. Otherwise you would have to guess the second part to the question?

The second part being to draw two possible alcohols which could undergo elimination reactions with H3PO4 to form the alkene? Or was that a different question, can't remember as 3-methylpent-2-ene came up in two parts of the question I think?

You're right. All of my students fail because I just mock them. I am a terrible teacher and a troll.

I suggest you drop this silly obsession with Q3c and your disbelief that it says to give two structures and that you move on and concentrate on any upcoming exams. I thought I was helping by settling a point of fact between you and another poster. Good luck!

No the second part was to explain why one is major

You're right. All of my students fail because I just mock them. I am a terrible teacher and a troll.

I suggest you drop this silly obsession with Q3c and your disbelief that it says to give two structures and that you move on and concentrate on any upcoming exams. I thought I was helping by settling a point of fact between you and another poster. Good luck!