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Mole ratio doubt -

C : H : O
1.3 : 3 : 1

should I round up 1.3 to 2 or 1?
Original post by ihaspotato
Mole ratio doubt -

C : H : O
1.3 : 3 : 1

should I round up 1.3 to 2 or 1?

Multiply everything by 3?
To give r C4H9O3 I mean
Original post by C0balt
Multiply everything by 3?
To give r C4H9O3 I mean


I took 1.3 as an example.. but there was a paper where the ratios were

1.75 : 3 :1
(x4)
giving C7H12O4

but I wanted to know if it was 1.3 - should I round it up to 1 or 2?
Reply 823
Original post by _H_V
When calculating pH of buffer do you use the moles of the weak acid and its salt or do you use the concentration of each in the equation?
I just did a couple of buffer questions and realised I was forgetting to change the moles of the acid and salt back into concentration to put into the equation but the answer was still correct.


Anyone ? :frown:
Original post by ihaspotato
I took 1.3 as an example.. but there was a paper where the ratios were

1.75 : 3 :1
(x4)
giving C7H12O4

but I wanted to know if it was 1.3 - should I round it up to 1 or 2?

Do you mean round it up to 1.0 or 2.0? I don't think you should do that because 0.3 is quite significant as opposed to 0.08 or 0.91 or something!
I think it depends how high or low the 0.3 is. I always go with gut feeling lol
Original post by _H_V
Anyone ? :frown:

Concentration
Data booklet
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CH ppm 1.8-3.0 how? what does it fall under?
Original post by _H_V
Anyone ? :frown:


Perhaps the answers were still correct because the volumes cancelled?
Original post by ihaspotato
Data booklet
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CH ppm 1.8-3.0 how? what does it fall under?


Can you screenshot the question? We need the context of the CH group
Original post by ihaspotato
Data booklet
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CH ppm 1.8-3.0 how? what does it fall under?

It's the H-c-c=o environment I believe if you look at the data booklet
This is June 15 isn't it I did it this morning
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by Funky_Giraffe
Can you screenshot the question? We need the context of the CH group


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Original post by ihaspotato
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It's the because it's the H in the H-C-C=O, which shows up at 1.8-3.0ppm
Original post by Funky_Giraffe
It's the because it's the H in the H-C-C=O, which shows up at 1.8-3.0ppm


Ahh makes sense. Thanks! :u:
Reply 833
Original post by _H_V
Anyone ? :frown:


think of it this way, to work out conc for A- and HA u had to divide moles by volume; as the amount of volume in the solution is the same you divide both molar amounts by the same number(v), so its: A-/V divided by HA/V. As the v's cancel you are just left with the molar amounts. (A- divided by HA).

You can skip converting to concentration essentially but ka definition is using concentration values not molar amounts
I think you tend to get method mark by calculating the concentration even if you don't really have to. That is often the case with Kp calculations etc, so i do every step just in case I mess up some place
Why a solution of CH3COONa is a stronger acid than NH3 (wouldn't the ammonia dissociate to give NH4+ ?
Original post by PlayerBB
Why a solution of CH3COONa is a stronger acid than NH3 (wouldn't the ammonia dissociate to give NH4+ ?


Yes but that also gives OH- ions in solution. NH3 is not an acid.
Original post by Funky_Giraffe
Totally agree with this. Although being the last main-sit exam in this series, the potential is there for them to pull out all the stops and make this unit 4 a hard one...


was searching for ways for them to 360noscope us to re-sit the exam next year and then I find this - May 2016 C1 news.

:nothing:

Original post by PlayerBB
Why a solution of CH3COONa is a stronger acid than NH3 (wouldn't the ammonia dissociate to give NH4+ ?

Which one's the answer?
Original post by C0balt
Which one's the answer?


B (3,2,1)

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