How the right respond to hate crime against gay people.

No, he said the reporter finds it harder to understand the wider impact because he isn't LGBTQIA. that makes perfect sense.

And it was said that Jews get attacked, does one have to be a Jew to fathom an attack. He was just getting arsy, like most who think it's all about them. :rolleyeyes:

Demonise Christians for a cake.

Defend Muslims for 50 dead in a gay bar.


What a time to be alive.

He didn't think it was about him at all. He was astounded by the fact the news reporters were claiming it wasn't an LGBT attack - yes it was. And to say it wasn't is completely out of line. That was his point. Go and read his article for The Guardian if you want to at least try and understand why he did what he did. I agree that he was slightly eccentric but he wasn't being selfish or 'arsy'. He had very strong reasons to do what he did and he was not the one in the wrong in this situation.

I was watching it all, no need to read his column. He's very opinionated but mostly I agree with him but not here. This is the first time a LGB attack has taken place (thankfully) but to throw a hissy fit & storm off, really? When Londoners died people were emotional yet they conducted interviews without all this behaviour.

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I'm sorry but read the article. You clearly do not understand what he did and why.

Gay attacks have been going on daily.

And it was said that Jews get attacked, does one have to be a Jew to fathom an attack. He was just getting arsy, like most who think it's all about them. :rolleyeyes:

I was watching Sky News last night and couldn't understand what the guy on there was getting so upset about. He was getting caught up on certain words. It was just weird.

They were trying to say it wasnt an LGBTQIA attack... which it was.

What mass shootings of gay people daily? :-/

People are attacked daily for being black, white, brown, Sikh, Muslim, Christian. Or looked at the wrong way. Attacks aren't exclusive to gays.

He's taken the light off the actual incident. As Obama said it was a terrorist attack.

Which was in a club full of Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals & Transgender and even straights. (latter is my quote)

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I really don't think they were. I am almost positive the lady on the show (I don't know what her name is) said at least twice that they agree it was an attack on LGBT people. I do remember the male presenter talking about it being an attack on human beings and he got pissed off over that.

He then mentioned something about them not understanding, because they're not gay? I felt like the guy was a dick and showed himself up.

Orlando was both a terrorist attack and a homophobic attack on LGBT people. It was both the worst mass shooting in US history, and the worst targeted mass killing of LGBT people in the western world since the Holocaust. It is possible for an atrocity to be more than one thing at the same time. You are not compelled to select one option or the other

Personally I thought the sky interview was just weird. I don't know why they were so reluctant to say it was an attack on gay people. It was literally an attack on a gay bar.

I also thought that, whilst I wouldn't endorse every word he wrote, Owen Jones was eminently reasonable in saying this:

Personally I thought the sky interview was just weird. I don't know why they were so reluctant to say it was an attack on gay people. It was literally an attack on a gay bar.

I also thought that, whilst I wouldn't endorse every word he wrote, Owen Jones was eminently reasonable in saying this:

Demonise Christians for a cake.

Defend Muslims for 50 dead in a gay bar.


What a time to be alive.

Ad how the left responds

http://thesatedire.com/news/world-news/working-class-media-and-muslims-banned-from-criticising-islam/

Homosexuality is an act of love, stand united. Religion is a set of ideas, some of which are hateful. Stand against ALL FORMS of fascism. This is not left and right. Let the politicians politic, let the right of mind unite.

What exactly is wrong with standing against all forms of fascism?

I agree. I really don't understand why the host had such a problem with Owen saying it was an attack on the LGBT demographic. He kept saying we are talking about the papers as if it wasn't some how relevant which is insane. It is incredibly insulting and insensitive, especially if you are talking to a gay person who is a LGBT activist. The host was acting as if even contemplating that an attack by someone who was inspired by ISIS, a group who execute gay people, would have any homophobic views/motivations would mean you are a leftist SJW nutjob.

Only thing I can think of is there seems to be this need to be "balanced" which means whenever you have anyone who is left wing like Owen Jones you need to provide a counter argument and make the left winger look at best well meaning but a bit on the fringe. Even if the thing you are arguing about is as obvious as this was clearly a motivated attack against LGBT party goers. There is all this talk of regressive leftism, well I'd call this regressive centrism. To dismiss any anti LGBT motivation for the attack is giving these Islamist nut jobs a free pass. It's analogous to when the BBC talk to a homeopath or a flat earther and feel the need to provide "balance" when the one side of the argument are just wrong. The host was defend the "flat earth" of the above analogue essentially.