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Reply 1460
Original post by Cadherin
I guess:

120 UMS = 90/100
108 UMS (A*) = 82/100
A = 74/100

I got CHEM2, PHYA1 exactly right last year and PHYA2 1 mark off, so you can have confidence that I tend to guess quite well!


what do you think for the other grades.
Original post by Ljm1998
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Reply 1462
Original post by cowie
was there any question we had to say excess NH3? - can't remember where I put it.. I really hope i didn't put it after KCN in ethanolic solution as the next step was OBVIOUSLY H2/Ni (which I hope I put) and which I have gotten correct every time it has come up in past paper questions.. Mind goes loop-de-loop in exams ffs.


I put excess NH3 too out of clumsiness and being rash :/

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Original post by man i
what do you think for the other grades.


I think 8 mark increments going down from 90/100 for 120 UMS. But again, it's only speculation.
Original post by emilies18
you know the polypeptide q with the zig zag thing? how did u guys do that? did u leave trailing bonds as a repeating unit or draw a dipeptide?


Leave trailing bonds, as it asked for a SECTION of protein (which is a polymer).
Original post by emilies18
you know the polypeptide q with the zig zag thing? how did u guys do that? did u leave trailing bonds as a repeating unit or draw a dipeptide?

I left it as a repeating unit
Pretty decent paper, so close to full marks I think! <3
Original post by mariapops
Guys I said the acyl chloride will give a white precipitate with agno3 but the other one will form a white pp really slowly, is this wrong???

nope thats right , aslong you put slowly its fine . i put the same :smile:
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Original post by RatedR
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Original post by emilies18
you know the polypeptide q with the zig zag thing? how did u guys do that? did u leave trailing bonds as a repeating unit or draw a dipeptide?

trailing as it asked for a section of it
Guys did I need to put partial charges on the NH and CO for the hydrogen bonds between the 2 amino acids?
Did anyone get 0.833 for that
[salt]/[ethanoic acid]
PLEASE :-( im pretty sure it was that? Can anyone remember the numbers and stuff?
Reply 1476
Original post by randoms132
Did anyone get 0.833 for that
[salt]/[ethanoic acid]
PLEASE :-( im pretty sure it was that? Can anyone remember the numbers and stuff?


no i think the answer was 1.2 something
Original post by ravichauhan11
trailing as it asked for a section of it


dammit i drew a dipeptide but underneath i drew it again and wrote that this was the repeating unit... do u think i would still get the mark?
Original post by bluhbluhbuh
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Misc: tell me where these go!!!

Equation representing ethanoic acid as a base with nitric acid:
CH3COOH + HNO3 -> CH3CO+NO3- + H2O

Identify what reagents are needed to distinguish between the two chlorine molecules, incl. observation. (Acyl chloride vs haloalkane (?))
Reagent: water/AgNO3 (?)/named carbonate
Observation: HCl fumes/White ppt./Effervescence -for the acyl chloride.

Which Nitrogen acts as a stronger base a vs. b (where a is attached to the benzene, and b is a tertiary amine) and why?
Nitrogen b due to the positive inductive effect of the carbons on the nitrogen, therefore making the lone pairs more available. Consequently nitrogen a is joined to a benzene so the lone pair delocalises into the benzene ring.

Order of reactions:
D 1
E 2

What is a racemic mixture?
Mixture containing equal quantities of each enantiomer.

How to distinguish between the two:
Expose to plane polarised light, rotates in opposite directions

Chiral Carbon relationship:
They are both mirror images of each other/enantiomers.

4.
Electrophile structure: CH3C(+)O

Reaction mechanism:
Arrow from benzene ring to C+ in CH3C(+)O, then arrow from hydrogen attached to the same carbon as the CH3CO back into the incomplete benzene ring (from carbon 1-4 i believe).

5. Can't remember exact questions, let me know i'll update ! =)
Notes:
Zwitterions have R-N(+)H3 and a COO-
Hydrogen bond between two amino acids: presumably show any partial bond from one hydrogen on one amino acid to either the nitrogen or oxygen on the other.
Dipeptides- essentially amides formed from 2 amino acids.

Advantage of using the polyester suture rather than the polyalkene?
the ester bond in polyester can hydrolyse whereas polyalkene C-C, C-H bonds are too strong thus cannot. Therefore the former can dissolve naturally whereas the former would require manual removal.

7. Conc. Of propanone increases by 100, What is the new rate equation and explain pls:
rate = k[H+]Due to the large excess of propanone, it is no longer affecting the rate as only the H+ concentration limits the speed at which the reaction proceeds.

Why is the initial rate of the reaction used to determine the order of the reactants rather than at any other point during the reaction? Or something
Initial rate takes into account the initial concentration of the reactants which is more accurate since, as the reaction proceeds the concentrations of the different species change. (?)

How do you calculate the initial rate of the reaction from a graph of concentration against time?
Calculate the gradient of the tangent to the slope. (?)

8. Organic synthesis to produce the branched primary amine:
Structure: Same as previous however Br is substituted with CN
Step 3: KCN w/ ethanol (?)
Step 4: H2/Ni, LiAlH4

Question 9 Notes (I don't even need to say the question, everyone knows this question by the number... eek)
Potassium dichromate turns green, either a primary or secondary alcohol, or aldehyde
O-H absorption in the Mass spec
O-H in NMR spectrum, singlet obvs
CH3-O present in NMR spectrum, singlet
RCH2 in NMR spectrum, triplet ?
R(CH3)2 in NMR spectrum, doublet ? uh pls halp don't remember values


Why is the initial rate of the reaction used to determine the order of the reactants rather than at any other point during the reaction?

I swear this question was 'why was initial concentration used to calculate the initial rate of reaction'
But i think its because the concentration of reactants decreases as the reaction progresses so using initial conc. Is more accurate

How do you calculate the initial rate of the reaction from a graph of concentration against time?
The gradient of the line when t=0

8. Organic synthesis to produce the branched primary amine:Structure: Same as previous however Br is substituted with CNStep 3: KCN w/ ethanol and also refluxStep 4: H2/Ni; with high pressure or LiAlH4 with dilute h2so4
Original post by randoms132
Did anyone get 0.833 for that
[salt]/[ethanoic acid]
PLEASE :-( im pretty sure it was that? Can anyone remember the numbers and stuff?


No, I got 1.20 something.

Rearranging the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation.

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