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A woman's right to a surname

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Original post by Socychoictraphy
It isn't a choice for women. The oppressive patriarchal values that are instilled through gender socialisation reinforce these traditional values that subordinate women and keep them inferior to me- yeah i'm just ****ing with you.


Has some truth behind it though.
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Original post by Blue_Mason
Because the husband is expected to propose, because the husband is expected to finance the wedding.


Actually traditionally the bride's family pays for the wedding, not the groom
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"Contemporary" women's rights is about choice, if she chooses to take her husbands name, great, if she keeps her maiden name, great too. Nothing contradictory in a fundamental right to choose.
Original post by Implication
Why hold to traditions? Something doesn't magically become worth doing just because 'its traditional'. I mean yeah sure if you can't decide, why not go with tradition? But if you actually have a reason for not taking the husband's name (eg you prefer the wife's), why the hell would you?

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Most ppeople follow traditional, if i am not correct?
Tradition works, it has worked for our parents,grandparents,great grandparents.
Original post by Blue_Mason
Most ppeople follow traditional, if i am not correct?
Tradition works, it has worked for our parents,grandparents,great grandparents.


Do they? Traditionally my family was religious and working class, among other things. I'm non-religious and middle class.

I hear people even marry people of the same sex these days!
Original post by Elivercury
Do they? Traditionally my family was religious and working class, among other things. I'm non-religious and middle class.



I hear people even marry people of the same sex these days!



Yes but we are talking about the most common rule of marriage.
Most men do not want to take their wives name, and I am just giving you the truth
Original post by Blue_Mason
Yes but we are talking about the most common rule of marriage.
Most men do not want to take their wives name, and I am just giving you the truth


Ah, so it's not really anything to do with tradition. Men don't like it, so therefore we should keep it that way. What a brilliant argument.
Original post by queen-bee
It's a choice,not obligatory. Although, I want to keep my future hubby's surname


What is the Arab Christian tradition when it comes to this, do women take up husband's surname?
Original post by Elivercury
Ah, so it's not really anything to do with tradition. Men don't like it, so therefore we should keep it that way. What a brilliant argument.



It has all to do with traditional preferences, in which I have given you one.
I guarantee you that most meaning the majority of women would prefer to keep or take on their husbands name.
Original post by Blue_Mason
It has all to do with traditional preferences, in which I have given you one.
I guarantee you that most meaning the majority of women would prefer to keep or take on their husbands name.


Sure, and given it's not hugely practical to have separate names, if the women are keeping theirs the husband should change his, no?
Original post by Elivercury
Sure, and given it's not hugely practical to have separate names, if the women are keeping theirs the husband should change his, no?



The husband should find someone else to marry
Original post by Blue_Mason
The husband should find someone else to marry


Good point, heaven forbid the man do anything he'd expect the woman to do.
A woman has a right to keep her name. However, I think there is a stigma if you don't have the same name as your children and it could be quite confusing for the children and other people.
Original post by claireestelle
More people keep their maiden names these days and men can take their wives surnames in many cases (through deed poll so more complex but still doable). I've decided to take my partners as it fits much better with both of our names than my double barreled one would, although we won't be or can't follow any other wedding traditions for sure.


Deal~
Where do i sign~ ?
Original post by Elivercury
Good point, heaven forbid the man do anything he'd expect the woman to do.



I am not a sexist
Original post by Blue_Mason
I am not a sexist


But you believe that women should either take their husband's name or never get married.
Original post by Elivercury
But you believe that women should either take their husband's name or never get married.



I believe in a fact, and that fact is that women expect to take on their husbands surname
Original post by Blue_Mason
I believe in a fact, and that fact is that women expect to take on their husbands surname


That is in no way a fact and I think we talk to different women.
Original post by Elivercury
That is in no way a fact and I think we talk to different women.



I were to do a census and ask the majority of women in this country, they would agree with me,period
Original post by Blue_Mason
I were to do a census and ask the majority of women in this country, they would agree with me,period


I suspect you'd find the majority undecided and planned to consider their options once they actually had a partner.

I mean, if my wife had an awesome surname I'd be inclined to take hers.

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