Muslim group urges members to break fast and donate blood after Orlando shootings

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2016/06/muslim_group_to_hold_prayer_se.html

A Metro Detroit Muslim group plans to hold a prayer service Tuesday night for the victims in the Sunday mass shooting in Orlando that left 50 people dead and over 50 people injured.

The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community Center in Rochester Hills will host the service, and is encouraging its members to break fast in order to donate blood for those in need.
Many Muslims abstain from eating or drinking during daylight hours through the Islamic month of Ramadan, which began Sunday.

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Reply 1

nucdev

Original post by 34908seikj

Literally waiting for ISOC members to disagree that Ahmadiyyas are Muslim.

Reply 2

34908seikj

Original post by nucdev

Literally waiting for ISOC members to disagree that Ahmadiyyas are Muslim.

I don't know the difference, is there a difference?

Reply 3

nucdev

Original post by 34908seikj

I don't know the difference, is there a difference?

I'll let some ISOC members deal with that :lol:

(edited 7 years ago)

Reply 4

h333

Original post by nucdev

I'll let some ISOC members deal with that :lol:

Who are you and how do you know me? :cookie:

Reply 5

champ_mc99

Original post by nucdev

I'll let some ISOC members deal with that :lol:

Original post by 34908seikj

I don't know the difference, is there a difference?

The other guys can probably answer this better. But afaik, some of them believe there was another prophet in the early 20th century after the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) which the majority of Muslims believe is the final prophet. This would probably be kufr (a form of disbelief).

Then again, some of them might not believe this but instead believe this person is the Messiah as well as the Mahdi (a leader to rule the Muslims near the end of the world). Here, I'm not sure if we can call them non-Muslims.

Overall, I wouldn't completely class the entire sect as non-Muslims and make takfir if they claim to be Muslims. The sharia seems to only make takfir on a person individually. So basically, I would still call them Muslims as a whole because they claim to be and share many similar faiths (also because I lack knowledge to think otherwise) but individually, it's possible for them to be classed as non-Muslims in accordance to Islamic law.

Yeah sorry it's all pretty messy^^ :tongue:

Reply 6

macsalaama

Original post by 34908seikj

I don't know the difference, is there a difference?

Imagine Christianity and the many denominations, Ahmediyyas are a tiny persecuted one who are seen as deviants by the mainstream "denominations".

Either way, props to them for doing this.

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Reply 7

DiddyDec01

Original post by 34908seikj

I don't know the difference, is there a difference?

Just different sects of the same overriding religion.

Like Catholics and protestants.

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Reply 8

ssshah2

Original post by nucdev

Literally waiting for ISOC members to disagree that Ahmadiyyas are Muslim.

I can't even 😂😂😂😂😂

Reply 9

ssshah2

Original post by DiddyDec

Just different sects of the same overriding religion.

Like Catholics and protestants.

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Basically that enmity, on steriods

Reply 10

Cakey_101

Original post by nucdev

Literally waiting for ISOC members to disagree that Ahmadiyyas are Muslim.

Thats not really the point of this thread though is it. Regardless of what or who they are, what they are doing is good.

Reply 11

champ_mc99

Original post by 34908seikj

But overall, I still give heaps of respect to them for doing this. Would be nice if more people will see this.

Reply 12

nucdev

Original post by Cakey_101

Thats not really the point of this thread though is it. Regardless of what or who they are, what they are doing is good.

Of course it's good, but I'm sure that there will be many Muslims who object to Ahmaddiyas being labelled as Muslims in the OP/article. That was my point.

And it's been proved already. See below:

Original post by Mrs.Grey

Ahmaddiyas are not Muslims so they can go sod themselves. Like you believe in a guy called Ahmed not Muhammed so how are you Muslim? You aren't. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

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Reply 13

h333

Original post by 34908seikj

I don't know the difference, is there a difference?

Yes there is. :smile:

The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the only Islamic organization to believe that the long-awaited Messiah has come in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908) of Qadian. Ahmad claimed to be the metaphorical second coming of Jesus(as) of Nazareth and the divine guide, whose advent was foretold by the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad(sa). The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community believes that God sent Ahmad, like Jesus(as), to end religious wars, condemn bloodshed and reinstitute morality, justice and peace.

This might help too:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-real-difference-between-the-Ahmadiyya-Muslim-sect-and-other-Muslim-sects

Reply 14

Mrs.Grey

Original post by Cakey_101

Thats not really the point of this thread though is it. Regardless of what or who they are, what they are doing is good.

Telling Muslims to break their fast is good?

Reply 15

ZuluK

Original post by nucdev

Literally waiting for ISOC members to disagree that Ahmadiyyas are Muslim.

Original post by nucdev

I'll let some ISOC members deal with that :lol:

**** stirrer :colonhash:

you have an obsession with the ISOC members :rofl:

Reply 16

Angry Bird

Ahmadiyyas ain't muslim.

Reply 17

Cakey_101

Original post by Mrs.Grey

Telling Muslims to break their fast is good?

You dont have to break your fast to give blood, no one is forcing them to. You can give blood after you break your fast.
It's the fact that they're actually helping to try and save lives and to portray Islam in the way it should be.

Reply 18

cupcakes87

Original post by Mrs.Grey

Ahmaddiyas are not Muslims so they can go sod themselves. Like you believe in a guy called Ahmed not Muhammed so how are you Muslim? You aren't. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

rude much

Reply 19

AperfectBalance

Original post by Mrs.Grey

Telling Muslims to break their fast is good?

Yes, absolutely brilliant fasting is near useless and only spiritual, but if your god was a kind god he would excuse you for not fasting if you were helping save someones life, Like when a sikh took off his turban to save a child from drowning or to cradle a child hit by a car. Any good god would not see this as a sin but as someone willing to go against a teaching for the greater good of humanity.

You may not think these are real muslims, but they seem like good people to me