"Death to Traitors, Freedom for Britain".

Thomas Mair gave his name as "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain" when he appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36567005

Now that it is confirmed that his actions were clearly a result of far-right neofascism, when will we start addressing this as the terrorism that it is? White supremacy has no place in this country or in society.

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Reply 1

martinnmartin

Wish I could watch the court case at the old Bailey what a fail it would be given what he put as his name lmao

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Reply 2

hovado

Original post by tanyapotter

White supremacy has no place in this country or in society.

TSR is crawling with them. :frown:

Reply 3

username878267

Now that it has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that this guy was a supporter of the far right and Britain First, I expect to see plenty argue that Britain First are left wing socialists.

It's the final throw of the dice for those seeking to defend the far right.

We also know that this guy kept Nazi memorabilia, a swastika flag and a book titled 'eradication of the Jews' at his house.

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Reply 4

Betelgeuse-

I think we can certainly say now this killing was political . To @tanyapotter how do you know this man was a white supremacist? Because he killed a white woman whilst letting her Muslim brown female assistant live???

How do you know he did not kill Mrs Cox because he was aggrieved by cuts to his mental health service and felt mrs Cox work for Syria refugees was at the expense of his own plight? <(Its not a rhetorical question btw)

Reply 5

09876543211

Now put 'Britain First' in the list of terrorist organisations.

Reply 6

hovado

Original post by Mathemagicien

In b4 100 reps

At least one even made it to mod!

Reply 7

queen-bee

Original post by Betelgeuse-

This guy was a neonazi,racist scum bag. Stop using the insanity card when it comes to certain demographics.

Reply 8

Stiff Little Fingers

Original post by Betelgeuse-

Well because there are records showing him buying instruction manuals from a neo-nazi group: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/06/16/alleged-killer-british-mp-was-longtime-supporter-neo-nazi-national-alliance and was a subscriber to another pro-apartheid group. Pretty evident he was a white supremacist.

Reply 9

queen-bee

Original post by hovado

TSR is crawling with them. :frown:

This is common knowledge,unfortunately :rolleyes:

Reply 10

tanyapotter

Original post by Betelgeuse-

He most definitely did not murder Jo Cox because he was annoyed about mental health cuts. I am annoyed about mental health cuts. I don't kill people because of it.

Try to defend him more. I won't take you seriously, but I'm interested in what you will come up with next.

Reply 11

queen-bee

OP I think you should've mentioned the 'terrorist colour chart' when it comes to the media and how they classify a terrorist

Reply 12

oShahpo

Original post by Mathemagicien

One radical solution would be to stop the teaching of the Nazis, and purge every mention of them from historical records

Yes, we wouldn't have the benefit of 'learning from the past', but there will always be a minority of people who like the idea of the Nazis, and are inspired by the Holocaust - and these are the people we are worried about; we would stop giving them ideas this way, and they'd likely end up committing petty crimes instead of terrorism

You can't be serious! People have the freedom to know and learn their history and past. There will always be nutters whatever the case may be, but imagine someone finding out about Hitler or the Nazis through the internet only to know that the government has been hiding all this information away from the people.

We should not live in a patriarchal government that controls our thoughts, White-supremacy or leftist-extremism, we are free to think and noone should take that away from us.

Reply 13

hovado

Original post by queen-bee

This is common knowledge,unfortunately :rolleyes:

About time they start taking it seriously then.

Reply 14

username2353215

Original post by Betelgeuse-

How do you know he did not kill Mrs Cox because he was aggrieved by cuts to his mental health service and felt mrs Cox work for Syria refugees was at the expense of his own plight? <(Its not a rhetorical question btw)

How do you know that some refugees are not aggrieved by the west bombing their country and so carry out attacks at the expense of innocent civilians?

Reply 15

Betelgeuse-

Original post by queen-bee

This guy was a neonazi,racist scum bag. Stop using the insanity card when it comes to certain demographics.

I haven't once said he is insane. Why did he show her muslim assistant the his knife after killing a white woman and not kill the brown muslim woman? It doesn't make sense to me

Original post by Stiff Little Fingers

Appears so, i just dont understand why he did not kill the muslim assistant after killing the Jo

Original post by tanyapotter

People local to him disagree... i know for sure that the bolded you cannot know

Reply 16

username1177050

I think it shows that politicians have ignored a certain class of society for too long and this is the tragic consequence of that unfortunately, particularly when coupled with mental health problems/isolationism. Fwiw, I don't buy this outpouring of sympathy from the press and all these articles saying that MPs deserve respect and should be protected from criticism. Screw that, every decision they make should be able to be criticised by people. If they can't take a bit of abuse then a public role isn't for them. They don't get to live in this insulated bubble immune from our criticism whilst on the sum of 75k per year plus benefits expenses and a brilliant pension. It's like that Aylan kurdi incident, next week they will
Be back to what they have preached to us not to do

Reply 17

queen-bee

Original post by Betelgeuse-

I haven't once said he is insane. Why did he show her muslim assistant the his knife after killing a white woman and not kill the brown muslim woman? It doesn't make sense to me

Appears so, i just dont understand why he did not kill the muslim assistant after killing the Jo

People local to him disagree... i know for sure that the bolded you cannot know

Because he felt that maybe as a white women she was betraying the country because of her stance on foreign affairs involving the Middle East? he is a neonazi and racist so he it wouldn't surprise me

The same local people who identified him as a polite and quiet gardener?

Reply 18

Betelgeuse-

Original post by TSRFT8

How do you know that some refugees are not aggrieved by the west bombing their country and so carry out attacks at the expense of innocent civilians?

I dont know that, i would suggest some radicilisation centres heavily around that idea and the perceived injustice.... Is there a point you are making here or are you looking to make a good argument for why its bad to take in 2 million war torn refugees who can easily be aggrieved by their new host countries role?

Reply 19

username1177050

Also I am definitely not defending this lunatic but I think it's worth noting that jo cox was advocating us taking in a load of u productive Syrian refugees. It's all well and good telling us that, but would she have had to live with the collateral damage that working class people would have? She had a house deep in the country and lived on a boat otherwise, so I doubt it. It's great that she had ideals which is admirable as many politicians don't but I think maybe she was very passionate and perhaps not considering how those most affected by what she would have been advocating would be impacted