Does this explain the manosphere?

all this nasty stuff about unsuccessful males can lead to real life tragedies:

https://www.youtube.com/user/ElliotRodger

Totally, I've only been finding out more recently about the alt-right world. It does seem to tie into a resurgence of white superiority, misogynist and conspiracist worldviews.

On the question of divorce laws, it probably can't be denied that if you go back 15 or 20 years, men who wanted custody often didn't get a fair hearing. But English courts have changed beyond recognition on that score; women do not get automatic or preferential custody of children any more.

One issue around marriage laws I did see these people referring to was that they felt adultery should be outlawed and men who "take our women" should be punished. They also demanded "pre-marital purity". Other "incels" demanded that the government should provide sexual partners for them. It's almost as though they're so achingly insecure that they believe (perhaps with some justification) that the only way they could get a woman to be with them is if the woman was forced. The difference is that they're wrong about the cause of women rejecting them; it's not the feminist-socialist-SJW industrial complex conspiracy, it's their own individual lack of personality/attractiveness etc

On the contrary, Rodgers is a posterboy for the manosphere and a perfect example of how their message of male entitlement to sex and blaming all their woes on feminists etc leads to dangerous psychopathologies

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It is an interesting one, as you can find instances where men typically have less favourable results/conditions/rights than women do, but thus far I've yet to find a situation where the reason that situation exists isn't ultimately because of men's sexism in the first place.

Your example about divorce favouring a woman, if there is any actual discrimination here (which I don't think there is), then this is a direct consequence of women being expected to bring up the children and not work while the man is the breadwinner. Remove this stereotype and there is no longer a reason it should "favour" anyone.

One issue around marriage laws I did see these people referring to was that they felt adultery should be outlawed and men who "take our women" should be punished. They also demanded "pre-marital purity". Other "incels" demanded that the government should provide sexual partners for them. It's almost as though they're so achingly insecure that they believe (perhaps with some justification) that the only way they could get a woman to be with them is if the woman was forced. The difference is that they're wrong about the cause of women rejecting them; it's not the feminist-socialist-SJW industrial complex conspiracy, it's their own individual lack of personality/attractiveness etc

I said it wasnt aimed at anyone bro lol

I question with the entire basis of this. Often men want to continue working full time and prefer to hand over custody to the woman.

Don't get mad. I know my post upset you and made you emotional, and thus you had to lash out (inarticulate and predictable as your rebuke was). But don't you realise that in doing so you make it clear to everyone else that you also are an embittered fugly virgin like the men to whose defence you leapt?

Right, what they really want is women to be stuck with them for life. Whining about the men who actually want custody, who as you astutely observe are few and far between, is just an excuse to complain about going back to the good old days where women did as you said or they got a black eye.

He's got a face like a scalded ballsack, all the physical charisma of a hemorrhoid and a child molestery look about him.

Surely it's a mistake that a neckbeard who looks like he spends his days and nights in his Mum's basement masturbating to pictures of women dressed as a fantasy orc can be offering advice on the fairer sex to other men.

I think what I found most discombobulating was that he wrote blogs with titles like "Fat girls don't deserve to be loved", which is bizarre given his own issues in that area.

It's cool bro, I know you're timid so I won't hold it against you if you can't stand behind what you say.

On the contrary, Rodgers is a posterboy for the manosphere and a perfect example of how their message of male entitlement to sex and blaming all their woes on feminists etc leads to dangerous psychopathologies

These guys and the feminists should be sent to the gulags

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It is an interesting one, as you can find instances where men typically have less favourable results/conditions/rights than women do, but thus far I've yet to find a situation where the reason that situation exists isn't ultimately because of men's sexism in the first place.

Your example about divorce favouring a woman, if there is any actual discrimination here (which I don't think there is), then this is a direct consequence of women being expected to bring up the children and not work while the man is the breadwinner. Remove this stereotype and there is no longer a reason it should "favour" anyone.

Rodgers was openly anti-PUA

In the past I haven't really got involved in this "red pill" crap because the whole thing is toxic and I'm gay so I don't really care. But I had to laugh when a friend clued me on to two of the "manosphere" big wigs, which prompted me to research a little about the "movement". And suddenly it all made sense; why they are so desperately unhappy and bitter against women, why they act generally like complete losers.

Now keep in mind these two bozos below are constantly talking about being an "alpha" male, how they bang loads of women, how women shouldn't be allowed to own property or vote or get a university education. I give you Exhibit 1, Matt Forney



He's got a face like a scalded ballsack, all the physical charisma of a hemorrhoid and a child molestery look about him. Presumably he channeled all his rage at female rejection into a misogynistic feedback loop of low self-esteem and hatred that further reduces his prospects to have sexual relations with a woman.

Matt Forney is apparently a big cheese in the "manosphere" world. He regularly writes articles about how women are to be treated (badly, he tells us; they love it apparently) and how men can increase their prospects with the opposite sex by calling women retards and denying that sex requires consent. Tbh even using the ludicrous standards of the manosphere world, Forney looks weak, passive, effeminate and gross.

Exhibit 2 is Dean Esmay, another player in the manosphere world



Surely it's a mistake that a neckbeard who looks like he spends his days and nights in his Mum's basement masturbating to pictures of women dressed as a fantasy orc can be offering advice on the fairer sex to other men.

I'm genuinely curious what proportion of men are into this subculture. None of my straight guy friends are into this stuff so I don't really have anyone to ask IRL. But having dipped my toe in to this subculture and seeing the sort of weirdos these people look up to, it only confirms my previous impressions.

In the sense that he believed it was a scam that didn't work. While there is some truth to that, it's very different from finding it repugnant for any reason of principle.

sounds like someone took the blue pill