This discussion is now closed.
Check out other Related discussions
- HELP !! Deciding whether I should do an apprenticeship or go to university for chem
- Working Class / Left wing football clubs?
- What is Your Favorite Football Club
- The Liverpool FC Thread XVII
- Bundesliga
- Liverpool vs Bristol for history
- ✨All Things Royal✨ Spam!
- Whats everyone up to?
- What team do you support and why?
- CTFT (IRN) - Count To Five Thousand (In Roman Numerals)
- Question Everything
- diary of a first year medic
- Make it More Princess-ey !!
- Any ideas for IRP a level french?
- Things EA Sports FC Needs To Change From FC 24
- rosarian v a-levels. ~r's gyg 2024⭐
- Liverpool medicine A100 2023
- Official University of Liverpool Applicant Thread for 2024
- International Aspiring Medical Student - Need help narrowing schools
- OFFICIAL A101 Liverpool University Graduate Entry Medicine Thread 2024 Entry
The Liverpool FC Thread XIV
Scroll to see replies
Mamadou Sakho is expected to discover within the next three weeks whether he must serve a suspension for contravening Uefa’s drugs rules.
The Liverpool defender’s career has been on hold since it was announced he failed a drug test following the Europa League tie at Manchester United on 17 March. The 26-year-old was initially taken out of the Liverpool side by the manager, Jürgen Klopp, and then provisionally suspended by Uefa for 30 days.
Sakho missed the final eight games of Liverpool’s season, including the Europa League final defeat by Sevilla, plus selection for France’s squad at the European Championship as a consequence.
After opting not to have his B sample examined, Sakho’s lawyers have argued the fat-burning substance that resulted in the failed drug test should not be on Uefa’s prohibited list. European football’s governing body have been conducting their own investigation into whether that should be the case and have set a provisional date of early July for the disciplinary hearing.
Liverpool are due to start pre-season training on 2 July.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/20/liverpools-mamadou-sakho-to-learn-of-possible-drugs-ban-within-three-weeks
The Liverpool defender’s career has been on hold since it was announced he failed a drug test following the Europa League tie at Manchester United on 17 March. The 26-year-old was initially taken out of the Liverpool side by the manager, Jürgen Klopp, and then provisionally suspended by Uefa for 30 days.
Sakho missed the final eight games of Liverpool’s season, including the Europa League final defeat by Sevilla, plus selection for France’s squad at the European Championship as a consequence.
After opting not to have his B sample examined, Sakho’s lawyers have argued the fat-burning substance that resulted in the failed drug test should not be on Uefa’s prohibited list. European football’s governing body have been conducting their own investigation into whether that should be the case and have set a provisional date of early July for the disciplinary hearing.
Liverpool are due to start pre-season training on 2 July.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/20/liverpools-mamadou-sakho-to-learn-of-possible-drugs-ban-within-three-weeks
Karius unlikely to be called up for the Olympics, meaning he won't miss the start of the season.
Original post by mr tim
Karius unlikely to be called up for the Olympics, meaning he won't miss the start of the season.
Is there any reasoning behind him not being called up?
Is there any way we can avoid selling Allen?
His assist was absolutely perfect.
The Welsh Xavi indeed...
His assist was absolutely perfect.
The Welsh Xavi indeed...
Original post by The Rusty Spork
Is there any reasoning behind him not being called up?
Germany aren’t short of goalkeeping options with FC Koln’s Timo Horn, Barcelona’s Marc-Andre ter Stegen, Bayer Leverkusen’s Bernd Leno and Freiburg’s Alexander Schwolow also under consideration.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-confident-goalkeeper-loris-karius-11500807
Allen was superb. He has actually been one of the best midfielders this tournament so far.
Original post by Malevolent
Allen was superb. He has actually been one of the best midfielders this tournament so far.
Not even in question.
He'll get overshadowed by the likes of Payet and Bale but my God, he has been terrific.
Watch us sell him for £5m now...
Original post by Lúcio
Is there any way we can avoid selling Allen?
His assist was absolutely perfect.
The Welsh Xavi indeed...
His assist was absolutely perfect.
The Welsh Xavi indeed...
Klopp already made his mind up.
He's gonna sell the welsh pirlo and buy garbage (dahoud, Zielinski etc);
Posted from TSR Mobile
Original post by nerdling_CompSci
Klopp already made his mind up.
He's gonna sell the welsh pirlo and buy garbage (dahoud, Zielinski etc);
Posted from TSR Mobile
He's gonna sell the welsh pirlo and buy garbage (dahoud, Zielinski etc);
Posted from TSR Mobile
Pls no
I'd legit us rather keep Allen and sell Henderson if we're gonna buy Zielinski.
It's just complicated because he's our captain - I understand Rodgers putting his faith in him and having Gerrard's backing but he has been hindered through injury and his development just isn't there.
The fact is that he isn't good enough to be a guaranteed starter, so he can't be our captain.
Allen's issue is that he's not big enough. Klopp's Dortmund team were big and physical - Henderson gives you that but Allen cannot grow another 6 inches.
I don't think Allen is better than Henderson - the latter has been unfortunate since we've seen a player hampered by injury. Allen will go back to Swansea imo.
I don't think Allen is better than Henderson - the latter has been unfortunate since we've seen a player hampered by injury. Allen will go back to Swansea imo.
Yh, if Allen was taller or bulkier than he would still be in the team but he can get bullied off the ball against physical opposition which is why Klopp has been playing Milner over him. It's a shame because he offers attributes that the team needs and neither Can or Henderson can offer those attributes.
Unless Henderson gets his **** together, he will slowly be phased out of the first XI as Can is likened more by Klopp and he has a higher ceiling and we are in for a CM that will bring qualities that Henderson cannot offer when playing in a midfield two.
Unless Henderson gets his **** together, he will slowly be phased out of the first XI as Can is likened more by Klopp and he has a higher ceiling and we are in for a CM that will bring qualities that Henderson cannot offer when playing in a midfield two.
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by Lúcio
Pls no
I'd legit us rather keep Allen and sell Henderson if we're gonna buy Zielinski.
It's just complicated because he's our captain - I understand Rodgers putting his faith in him and having Gerrard's backing but he has been hindered through injury and his development just isn't there.
The fact is that he isn't good enough to be a guaranteed starter, so he can't be our captain.
I'd legit us rather keep Allen and sell Henderson if we're gonna buy Zielinski.
It's just complicated because he's our captain - I understand Rodgers putting his faith in him and having Gerrard's backing but he has been hindered through injury and his development just isn't there.
The fact is that he isn't good enough to be a guaranteed starter, so he can't be our captain.
I would also sell henderson
As for Zielinski, he won't offer what we do not already have
Posted from TSR Mobile
Original post by Zerforax
Allen's issue is that he's not big enough. Klopp's Dortmund team were big and physical - Henderson gives you that but Allen cannot grow another 6 inches.
I don't think Allen is better than Henderson - the latter has been unfortunate since we've seen a player hampered by injury. Allen will go back to Swansea imo.
I don't think Allen is better than Henderson - the latter has been unfortunate since we've seen a player hampered by injury. Allen will go back to Swansea imo.
Allen makes tackles, successful tackles. Something that henderson doesn't do.
Barcelona only have one giant (busquet) in the midfield. And they do fine. Also allen has had no problems in the midfield so far, dont see his physicality being an issue.
We have a tank (Emre can) for protection.
Henderson + Can midfield has proven time after time to be a disaster
Posted from TSR Mobile
Original post by Zerforax
Henderson gives you that but Allen cannot grow another 6 inches.
he can do stretches like Jam.
Original post by nerdling_CompSci
Allen makes tackles, successful tackles. Something that henderson doesn't do.
Barcelona only have one giant (busquet) in the midfield. And they do fine. Also allen has had no problems in the midfield so far, dont see his physicality being an issue.
We have a tank (Emre can) for protection.
Henderson + Can midfield has proven time after time to be a disaster
Posted from TSR Mobile
Barcelona only have one giant (busquet) in the midfield. And they do fine. Also allen has had no problems in the midfield so far, dont see his physicality being an issue.
We have a tank (Emre can) for protection.
Henderson + Can midfield has proven time after time to be a disaster
Posted from TSR Mobile
Well in the Southampton game at St Mary's, he simply was dominated by Wanyama in the second half. Barcalona may not have tall players but none of their players are pushovers either, they have enough strength to retain the ball (tbh their league isn't as physical as ours so not a fair comparision imo), not sure if Allen can retain the ball up comfortably against physical opposition. There is also the issue of long balls which Allen will have to face against taller players, chances are he will lose those aerial duels and we lose control of the midfield and concede goals (something that has been the recurring theme for the past season)
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by nerdling_CompSci
Allen makes tackles, successful tackles. Something that henderson doesn't do.
Barcelona only have one giant (busquet) in the midfield. And they do fine. Also allen has had no problems in the midfield so far, dont see his physicality being an issue.
We have a tank (Emre can) for protection.
Henderson + Can midfield has proven time after time to be a disaster
Posted from TSR Mobile
Barcelona only have one giant (busquet) in the midfield. And they do fine. Also allen has had no problems in the midfield so far, dont see his physicality being an issue.
We have a tank (Emre can) for protection.
Henderson + Can midfield has proven time after time to be a disaster
Posted from TSR Mobile
Well there's must be a reason why Rodgers and Klopp both favoured Henderson over Allen. Henderson's numbers stack up fine. Not sure Allen can dominate a midfield enough (whether physically or just by passing/movement).
Barcelona can afford to have a team of midgets because they are so free scoring and previously held so much possession. When we're able to retain possession so well, we can keep Allen?
Not sure how it proved to be a disaster? They were actually a pretty good combination until Henderson's injury took a toll on him.
£7m bid rejected for Ben Chilwell, Leicester want £10m. We're considering Hull's Robertson as an alternative.
We've put in a £30m bid in for Mane.
Allen likely to leave Liverpool for Swansea for £10m.
We've put in a £30m bid in for Mane.
Allen likely to leave Liverpool for Swansea for £10m.
Won't be long until lfc fans call for Klopp's head at this rate if things don't work out.
Original post by samir12
Well in the Southampton game at St Mary's, he simply was dominated by Wanyama in the second half. Barcalona may not have tall players but none of their players are pushovers either, they have enough strength to retain the ball (tbh their league isn't as physical as ours so not a fair comparision imo), not sure if Allen can retain the ball up comfortably against physical opposition. There is also the issue of long balls which Allen will have to face against taller players, chances are he will lose those aerial duels and we lose control of the midfield and concede goals (something that has been the recurring theme for the past season)
You're right about long balls. Which is why we need to play a 433 if allen isn't sold. A rock solid CDM with Can and Allen is sufficient than buying Zielinski.
Posted from TSR Mobile
Original post by Zerforax
Well there's must be a reason why Rodgers and Klopp both favoured Henderson over Allen. Henderson's numbers stack up fine. Not sure Allen can dominate a midfield enough (whether physically or just by passing/movement).
Barcelona can afford to have a team of midgets because they are so free scoring and previously held so much possession. When we're able to retain possession so well, we can keep Allen?
Not sure how it proved to be a disaster? They were actually a pretty good combination until Henderson's injury took a toll on him.
Barcelona can afford to have a team of midgets because they are so free scoring and previously held so much possession. When we're able to retain possession so well, we can keep Allen?
Not sure how it proved to be a disaster? They were actually a pretty good combination until Henderson's injury took a toll on him.
Its a disaster in terms of creativity, henderson and can are not mobile and they're vision is trash.
I dont have to praise allens vision you already know he's very creative.
All im saying with this allen issue is that if KLOPP sells him and buys Zielinski or dahoud (who are both downgrades) then KLOPP can go **** himself.
Reclying an AMG with a bicycle(s).
Posted from TSR Mobile
Related discussions
- HELP !! Deciding whether I should do an apprenticeship or go to university for chem
- Working Class / Left wing football clubs?
- What is Your Favorite Football Club
- The Liverpool FC Thread XVII
- Bundesliga
- Liverpool vs Bristol for history
- ✨All Things Royal✨ Spam!
- Whats everyone up to?
- What team do you support and why?
- CTFT (IRN) - Count To Five Thousand (In Roman Numerals)
- Question Everything
- diary of a first year medic
- Make it More Princess-ey !!
- Any ideas for IRP a level french?
- Things EA Sports FC Needs To Change From FC 24
- rosarian v a-levels. ~r's gyg 2024⭐
- Liverpool medicine A100 2023
- Official University of Liverpool Applicant Thread for 2024
- International Aspiring Medical Student - Need help narrowing schools
- OFFICIAL A101 Liverpool University Graduate Entry Medicine Thread 2024 Entry
