Why I, an 18 Year Old, Ex-Muslim voted leave?

Is Islam now a race? Gosh, you're so wise.

Why did you become an ex-muslim?

Islam is a race in the sense that Muslims come from a certain a specific race "Brown people, which are not technically a race, but you know what I mean" and you can't easily differentiate between Muslims and Non-Muslims from the same background. Thus any discrimination against Muslims will have to affect Christians, Ex-Muslims and other denominations from the usual Muslim backgrounds.

Why did you become an ex-muslim?

I became non-religious after figuring out that God probably doesn't exist, and that after we die, its ging to before we were born.

I became Ex-muslim when I found out that apostates are killed. It seems like the height of irrationality to me. Its a huge scam.

Islam is a race in the sense that Muslims come from a certain a specific race "Brown people, which are not technically a race, but you know what I mean" and you can't easily differentiate between Muslims and Non-Muslims from the same background. Thus any discrimination against Muslims will have to affect Christians, Ex-Muslims and other denominations from the usual Muslim backgrounds.

All the evidence contradicts that hope.



I'm being slightly satirical/mocking. I know of that, of course, but I was trying to highlight the silliness of the person I was replying to being apparently unaware that there are reasons for Muslims not voting other than them being 'stupid and dumb', especially when this is being done with ignorance of another part of the faith, namely the prohibition of backbiting.



Your one anomalous example doesn't disprove the trend among Muslims, even British-born ones, to have extreme qualms with the idea of apostasy from Islam (they're notably okay with apostasy from other religions to Islam though).

I hope you understand that that would've happened in the past, and now that times have changed, many muslims would never think of killing anyone, even a non muslim. However, that's your opinion and I respect that, eventhough there's already so much evidence that God does exist, especially in Islam, but again that's open to opinion.

I hope you understand that that would've happened in the past, and now that times have changed, many muslims would never think of killing anyone, even a non muslim. However, that's your opinion and I respect that, eventhough there's already so much evidence that God does exist, especially in Islam, but again that's open to opinion.

There is not an atom's worth of evidence for God's existence, least of all Allah's.

I became non-religious after figuring out that God probably doesn't exist, and that after we die, its ging to before we were born.

I became Ex-muslim when I found out that apostates are killed. It seems like the height of irrationality to me. Its a huge scam.

I wish that were true:

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey

Not trolling, just trying to make sure you don't fall into the trap of non-literalism and innovation.
On a serious note, you should know that plenty of Muslims have fairly solid religious reasons for not voting in elections/referenda, though there is a difference of opinion on the matter.

That article really annoys me, because we live in a society filled with islamaphobia and the government use propaganda and censor things to make people, like you, believe in what they want you to believe. And majority of this is from the older generation, not our generation.

There is not an atom's worth of evidence for God's existence, least of all Allah's.

You do realise by that same argument every criticism of Nazism is racist.

Nazis don't seem physically distinguishable from ordinary white Europeans.

Not thread topic related but do a quick google search. Many countries don't kill apostates so it seems we may move to reform this law altogether.

I think that the consequences of this belief are more worrisome than the belief itself.

everyone has their own opinion, that's perfectly fine. However they shouldn't prevent other people from voting.

All Muslims, especially Bin Laden

Well, that's pretty stupid, here's why.
First of all I did not say do not criticise Islam or even outlaw it, I said any mass discrimination against Muslims will affect non-Muslims from the same background.
Secondly, the argument instead of being extended to Nazism, could be extended to Communism, as we have past experience of that. There has been massive discrimination against Communism in the past, and only a fool would suggest that this discrimination did not affect ordinary Eastern European and Soviet individuals.
Thirdly, there is no way you can police thought, only actions. You can't tell people what to think and what to believe, we do not live in a dystopian novel. You can only police actions, anything else is unfair and discriminatory as there is absolutely no way you can tell what people think. Thus discrimination against individuals for being Muslims, i.e. for having certain thoughts, is bound to be based on physical traits, hence the racism bit.

If you want to fight the idea, that is Islam, that's perfectly fine. But you can't fight people for what they think or believe. Unless they commit a crime, you can't punish them. You can't tell people what to think, be it Nazism or Islamism, freedom of thought is a freedom we are supposed to stand for. It doesn't mean you can't be vigilant with certain people.

And in anyway, unless you guarantee that you will not discriminate against someone called Muhammed or some brown guy from the Middle East, if they say they're not Muslim, then you are a racist for suggesting such idea.