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Anybody else considering leaving the UK now Brexit seems to be going ahead?

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Original post by Josb
I was thinking of Australia, Canada or the USA. Although I would be considered as a skilled worker, it's tough getting a job without going there for an interview.


Imo, Paris is a dirty, overcrowded, overpriced city (albeit cheap compared to London). :biggrin: The problem is that the French median wage is about €1,600/month and a flat costs about €900/month there. Finding a real job is also quite difficult.


Dream. crushed. :getmecoat:
Original post by Fullofsurprises
I'm really not 'blaming' the working class, I am blaming the upper class people like Farage and his mates who take their anger and misdirect it away from the cause of all the economic pressure on them in favour of simplistic solutions like the current one.


And here you are mistaken again. I was for remain but you really need to wake up. The elite, the establishment, the rich, the corporations and politicians have pushed voters to Farage. Farage was inevitable, it would just be a different name. If people like you actually spoke up against the status quo in the last 50 years things would be different. And I suspect you are rather young but old enough to vote so you lived through Blair years. Why weren't you protesting then? That was the final straw for the working class
Original post by Fullofsurprises
I'm really not 'blaming' the working class, I am blaming the upper class people like Farage and his mates who take their anger and misdirect it away from the cause of all the economic pressure on them in favour of simplistic solutions like the current one.


While you will never accept it, Labour, Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and other parties are equally to blame, they failed everyone
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Original post by AverageExcellence
It just goes to show who really has the UK's best interests at heart, those who purport to stand up for the UK do one as soon as things get a little turbulent.. good riddance

It's not the finance. People don't recognise the UK they grew up with. They feel alienated and unwelcome.

Personally I'm counting on #indyref2 to get me out and hope the NI and Gibraltar come too. Maybe even London if we are really lucky!!!
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Original post by Yellow 03
Dream. crushed. :getmecoat:


Sorry, but we have 6 million unemployed workers. What did you want to do?
Original post by Aph
It's not the finance. People don't recognise the UK they grew up with. They feel alienated and unwelcome.

Personally I'm counting on #indyref2 to get me out and hope the NI and Gibraltar come too. Maybe even London if we are really lucky!!!


You'll be waiting a while, 55% of Scottish people aren't ready for another referendum according to recent polls
Reply 126
Original post by AverageExcellence
You'll be waiting a while, 55% of Scottish people aren't ready for another referendum according to recent polls

Love to know what polls you are talking about because from what I've seen 60-55% support brexit.
Original post by Josb
Sorry, but we have 6 million unemployed workers. What did you want to do?


How much is 6 million as a percentage of the overall workforce? At the moment I have a great job in London the details of which I'd rather not divulge in a public forum (it has to do with sector-specific strategic management, policy and standards) but the reality is that I still have not figured out what I want to be when I grow up. :tongue:
Original post by marco14196
Oh please, get over yourself. The stock exchange is an indicator of the performance of an economy. That should very much concern the working class. They're not separate things friend.


Stocks also reflect uncertainty. If a stock is producing great returns, but its future is uncertain, the price of the stock will fall even though the stock may very well continue to produce great returns.

The reason for the market crash is not due to poor performance, but due to increased uncertainty, and thus investors demand the dividends be a greater proportion of the stock's value.

So one cannot say the UK's economy will be worse of yet simply by looking at the stocks, but instead the future of the UK's economy is simply more uncertain.
My parents want to go to Oceania, in which I would have to go to a university there… it's so bloody expensive 😒
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Original post by Yellow 03
How much is 6 million as a percentage of the overall workforce? At the moment I have a great job in London the details of which I'd rather not divulge in a public forum (it has to do with sector-specific strategic management, policy and standards) but the reality is that I still have not figured out what I want to be when I grow up. :tongue:


We have a workforce of 26 million people (including more than 5 million public servants). You won't find a similar job in France.
Well this thread has turned into a bitter twisted bunch of snakes...
Original post by Fullofsurprises
I'm really not 'blaming' the working class, I am blaming the upper class people like Farage and his mates who take their anger and misdirect it away from the cause of all the economic pressure on them in favour of simplistic solutions like the current one.


But that line of thinking leads to the conclusion that they are idiots who can not think for themselves. Doesn't exactly give much hope for democracy or socialism. I mean you yourself basically think they shouldn't be able to vote with your reaction to how they voted in this referendum.

What you say has a lot of weight, but then... I don't let the actual racist xenophobes off the hook (not saying they are all like that) as if they are mentally incapable of not being racist. I'm not going to patronise them. They should bloody well organise and cut own on the racism and generally educate themselves. There is no reason why they can't,k working class people managed it before under much tougher circumstances throughout history.
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Original post by ChaoticButterfly
But that line of thinking leads to the conclusion that they are idiots who can not think for themselves. Doesn't exactly give much hope for democracy or socialism. I mean you yourself basically think they shouldn't be able to vote with your reaction to how they voted in this referendum.

What you say has a lot of weight, but then... I don't let the actual racist xenophobes off the hook (not saying they are all like that) as if they are mentally incapable of not being racist. I'm not going to patronise them. They should bloody well organise and cut own on the racism and generally educate themselves. There is no reason why they can't,k working class people managed it before under much tougher circumstances throughout history.


To be honest, a reckoning between the working class and the elite has been a long time coming since all mainstream political partied abandoned them.

I just didn't expect this vote to be that reckoning.
Original post by marco14196
In the wake of Brexit, I fundamentally believe the UK will embark on a long, slow drop into irrelevance. State your career field and what nations you are looking at moving to. The big brain drain will now strike old England.

I'm personally evaluating moving to New Zealand or Australia, my career field being as a ships navigation officer.


Nobody will miss you
You know, I thought about this the other day, and I was like "what country would I go to?"

Australia, I thought!

... BUT THEN I REMEMBERED THE SCARY SPIDERS AND STUFF. NO WAY AM I CUT OUT FOR THAT KIND OF HARDCORE LIVING, MAN.

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