Some Jews and Muslims actually defend Donald Trump

GOP candidate’s controversial comments sometimes make task of bringing their communities to his camp more difficult, though change in discourse now happening, say Eve Stieglitz, Sajid Tarar.

NEW YORK – Over the course of his campaign, the discourse of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has offended many groups in the United States: Hispanics, African-Americans, women, Jews and Muslims have all felt targeted at least once. Jewish groups came out against Donald Trump last week after he tweeted an image depicting Hillary Clinton against a backdrop of cash and a six-sided star, which he later said was meant to be a sheriff’s star. And, in the wake of the massacre at the Pulse gay nightclub in Orlando last month, the candidate also reiterated his conviction that a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States should be put in place. Despite these controversies, however, some Jews and Muslims have decided not only to vote for Trump, but to campaign to convince others in their communities to do so, as well. Eve Stieglitz and Sajid Tarar are both members of the National Diversity Coalition for Trump, a group of more than 50 representatives from dozens of minority communities in the United States established in April by Michael Cohen, adviser and special counsel at the Trump organization, with the goal of “recruiting, mobilizing and educating voters to help elect Donald Trump in November 2016,” according to the coalition’s website. The group held its first meeting with the Republican National Convention team last week to discuss strategy for the general election in November. Both Stieglitz and Tarar attended. Stieglitz, who represents Jewish American women in the coalition, was contacted to volunteer to take part in the initiative after some media appearances in which she defended the Republican candidate on American and Israeli Television. *I started becoming interested in Donald Trump’s campaign ever since I attended his campaign announcement almost exactly a year ago,

I’m with him. Radical Islam is not only a threat to Western civilization, it is a threat to itself,

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Trump panders towards emotional sentiment which hinders the rationality within the societal discourse. Unequivocally, therefore, people will be attracted to his campaign even from these communities- fear>identity.

That's exactly the same line of reasoning that lead to Remain losing the Brexit referendum. The condescending view that anyone who votes for Trump is just doing so because they're afraid, or unintelligent, or just plain racist. And just like it cost Remain the referendum, it could very easily carry Trump into the White House.

People have legitimate concerns about uncontrolled, illegal immigration from Mexico. They have legitimate concerns about trade deals which have lined the pockets of big business whilst simultaneously hemorrhaging low skilled jobs to countries in the Central Americas and Asia. They have legitimate concerns about radical Islam, and the spread of this poisonous ideology. And they have legitimate concerns about how US foreign policy has been largely flawed over the past couple decades. To write all of these off as just the irrational fears of a bunch of uneducated, racist, white men is simply adding fuel to the fire. To ignore these concerns, rather than confront them and put forwards an alternative, is only going to increase the likelihood that Trump finds himself in the Oval Office in a few months.

And labelling all these concerns as the concerns of the inwards-looking and the xenophobic is perhaps the biggest danger of all. It has become pervasive amongst the Left to do so these days, and all it serves to do is alienate the increasingly large faction of society who do not view uncontrolled immigration as a good thing. Brexit was the first warning of this, and if it isn't heeded, then Donald Trump will be the second, far louder alarm.

Ok, so answer this buddy, if a doctor misdiagnoses a patient is that harmful?

I'll be interested to hear how this analogy links back to the subject of Trump's popularity, and the wider anti-globalisation agenda.

Thats essentially how Trump is operating within the political sphere, he's lumping different problems into one homogenous entity. He's not proposing realistic solutions, you appear to think of yourself so highly, how on earth can you justify a man who proposes to 'build a wall between Mexico and the United States' as well as other racist strategies such as deportation of Muslims. I'm not in anyway a 'leftie' but rather a conservative follower so please don't try and portray me as such. Moreover, espousing a discourse that perpetuates racial and cultural polarisation is not what we need right now in the United States, it is therefore necessary to educate people that may have the opportunity to influence the vote who use this site in the US.

That's exactly the same line of reasoning that lead to Remain losing the Brexit referendum. The condescending view that anyone who votes for Trump is just doing so because they're afraid, or unintelligent, or just plain racist. And just like it cost Remain the referendum, it could very easily carry Trump into the White House.

People have legitimate concerns about uncontrolled, illegal immigration from Mexico. They have legitimate concerns about trade deals which have lined the pockets of big business whilst simultaneously hemorrhaging low skilled jobs to countries in the Central Americas and Asia. They have legitimate concerns about radical Islam, and the spread of this poisonous ideology. And they have legitimate concerns about how US foreign policy has been largely flawed over the past couple decades. To write all of these off as just the irrational fears of a bunch of uneducated, racist, white men is simply adding fuel to the fire. To ignore these concerns, rather than confront them and put forwards an alternative, is only going to increase the likelihood that Trump finds himself in the Oval Office in a few months.

And labelling all these concerns as the concerns of the inwards-looking and the xenophobic is perhaps the biggest danger of all. It has become pervasive amongst the Left to do so these days, and all it serves to do is alienate the increasingly large faction of society who do not view uncontrolled immigration as a good thing. Brexit was the first warning of this, and if it isn't heeded, then Donald Trump will be the second, far louder alarm.

That's exactly the same line of reasoning that lead to Remain losing the Brexit referendum. The condescending view that anyone who votes for Trump is just doing so because they're afraid, or unintelligent, or just plain racist. And just like it cost Remain the referendum, it could very easily carry Trump into the White House.

People have legitimate concerns about uncontrolled, illegal immigration from Mexico. They have legitimate concerns about trade deals which have lined the pockets of big business whilst simultaneously hemorrhaging low skilled jobs to countries in the Central Americas and Asia. They have legitimate concerns about radical Islam, and the spread of this poisonous ideology. And they have legitimate concerns about how US foreign policy has been largely flawed over the past couple decades. To write all of these off as just the irrational fears of a bunch of uneducated, racist, white men is simply adding fuel to the fire. To ignore these concerns, rather than confront them and put forwards an alternative, is only going to increase the likelihood that Trump finds himself in the Oval Office in a few months.

And labelling all these concerns as the concerns of the inwards-looking and the xenophobic is perhaps the biggest danger of all. It has become pervasive amongst the Left to do so these days, and all it serves to do is alienate the increasingly large faction of society who do not view uncontrolled immigration as a good thing. Brexit was the first warning of this, and if it isn't heeded, then Donald Trump will be the second, far louder alarm.

Thats essentially how Trump is operating within the political sphere, he's lumping different problems into one homogenous entity. He's not proposing realistic solutions, you appear to think of yourself so highly, how on earth can you justify a man who proposes to 'build a wall between Mexico and the United States' as well as other racist strategies such as deportation of Muslims. I'm not in anyway a 'leftie' but rather a conservative follower so please don't try and portray me as such. Moreover, espousing a discourse that perpetuates racial and cultural polarisation is not what we need right now in the United States, it is therefore necessary to educate people that may have the opportunity to influence the vote who use this site in the US.

Building a wall between the USA and Mexico is racist how exactly? Trying to stop people illegally entering the USA from another country is not racist. He's not saying 'close the border with Mexico, no more Mexicans in the USA', he's saying 'hang on a second, why is it so easy for people to cross the border illegally?'. That's essentially saying that any country which has a border with any other country, and enforces it, is racist. Explain to me how stemming the flow of illegal immigrants suggests that Hispanics are fundamentally inferior to white people?

You can't be racist towards Muslims, Islam is not a race. You may as well say he's being sexist towards Islam for all the sense that makes. I actually agree with you, in that what he said about stopping Muslims getting into the country is pretty despicable. But conflating that with the subtler point, which is that Islam is a backwards, intolerant ideology whose influence is only growing, is naive. Trump is overplaying it because it washes with a lot of people in swing states. That doesn't mean that Islam isn't a very real problem in the 21st century, and that sweeping it under the rug is not helping.

Since when did the US have issues with "uncontrolled immigration"? How many issues do the Muslim community in the US (who are generally educated, working and commit less crime) cause, as opposed to most of the other communities? A spade is a spade; if Trump makes xenophobic and bigoted comments which alienate entire communities then he is an xenophobe and a bigot, simple as. Considering the sheer amount of hatred I have seen radiating from his supporters on the Internet at all, I'm not about to try and "understand" such people.

I understood from the start of the referendum that people had different reasons for voting for Brexit; even though I voted Remain, the EU is far from perfect. That does not compare to voting for a blatantly hateful and divisive man.

Building a wall between the USA and Mexico is racist how exactly? Trying to stop people illegally entering the USA from another country is not racist. He's not saying 'close the border with Mexico, no more Mexicans in the USA', he's saying 'hang on a second, why is it so easy for people to cross the border illegally?'. That's essentially saying that any country which has a border with any other country, and enforces it, is racist. Explain to me how stemming the flow of illegal immigrants suggests that Hispanics are fundamentally inferior to white people?

You can't be racist towards Muslims, Islam is not a race. You may as well say he's being sexist towards Islam for all the sense that makes. I actually agree with you, in that what he said about stopping Muslims getting into the country is pretty despicable. But conflating that with the subtler point, which is that Islam is a backwards, intolerant ideology whose influence is only growing, is naive. Trump is overplaying it because it washes with a lot of people in swing states. That doesn't mean that Islam isn't a very real problem in the 21st century, and that sweeping it under the rug is not helping.

Since when did the US have issues with "uncontrolled immigration"? How many issues do the Muslim community in the US (who are generally educated, working and commit less crime) cause, as opposed to most of the other communities? A spade is a spade; if Trump makes xenophobic and bigoted comments which alienate entire communities then he is an xenophobe and a bigot, simple as. Considering the sheer amount of hatred I have seen radiating from his supporters on the Internet at all, I'm not about to try and "understand" such people.

I understood from the start of the referendum that people had different reasons for voting for Brexit; even though I voted Remain, the EU is far from perfect. That does not compare to voting for a blatantly hateful and divisive man.

That's exactly the same line of reasoning that lead to Remain losing the Brexit referendum. The condescending view that anyone who votes for Trump is just doing so because they're afraid, or unintelligent, or just plain racist. And just like it cost Remain the referendum, it could very easily carry Trump into the White House.

People have legitimate concerns about uncontrolled, illegal immigration from Mexico. They have legitimate concerns about trade deals which have lined the pockets of big business whilst simultaneously hemorrhaging low skilled jobs to countries in the Central Americas and Asia. They have legitimate concerns about radical Islam, and the spread of this poisonous ideology. And they have legitimate concerns about how US foreign policy has been largely flawed over the past couple decades. To write all of these off as just the irrational fears of a bunch of uneducated, racist, white men is simply adding fuel to the fire. To ignore these concerns, rather than confront them and put forwards an alternative, is only going to increase the likelihood that Trump finds himself in the Oval Office in a few months.

And labelling all these concerns as the concerns of the inwards-looking and the xenophobic is perhaps the biggest danger of all. It has become pervasive amongst the Left to do so these days, and all it serves to do is alienate the increasingly large faction of society who do not view uncontrolled immigration as a good thing. Brexit was the first warning of this, and if it isn't heeded, then Donald Trump will be the second, far louder alarm.

What do you think he wants to build a wall along the Mexican border for? It's precisely because of uncontrolled immigration from Mexico. Specifically, it's because of illegal immigration. It is not racist, nor is it xenophobic, to be opposed to illegal immigration. Again, by that line of reasoning, any country which enforces a border with any other country, is racist or xenophobic.

I disagree with a lot of what Trump has said about Muslims, but I also don't think Trump actually agrees with a lot of what he says about Muslims. He's pandering to an audience. The subtler message is that Islam is a backwards, toxic ideology which condones some truly vile stuff, and needs to be challenged. Whilst it may be true that Muslims in the West are more educated and more likely to be in work than the average (I honestly don't know how true that is), it is also true that 40% or so of them would support the imposition of Sharia Law and 20% or so of them sympathised with the cause of the 7/7 bombings. Islam should be challenged. That being said, I dislike pretty much everything that Trump has said about Muslims.

Have you seen any footage of Trump rallies? The violence and hatred is overwhelmingly coming from those protesting against the Trump rallies, not the actual Trump supporters themselves. Trump has actually been forced to cancel rallies as a result of violence from those who are protesting against him.

I don't even like Trump to be honest. I guess I might vote for him were I an American, but that's only because Hillary Clinton is just as awful a choice. My point was simply that the rhetoric coming from those who oppose Trump is nigh on identical to that coming from those who opposed Brexit, and that it will not do the Democrats any favours on election day.

Trump panders towards emotional sentiment which hinders the rationality within the societal discourse. Unequivocally, therefore, people will be attracted to his campaign even from these communities- fear>identity.

Trump is great

Trump panders towards emotional sentiment which hinders the rationality within the societal discourse. Unequivocally, therefore, people will be attracted to his campaign even from these communities- fear>identity.