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If Brexiters are so confident of victory then should they accept a second referendum?

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I think we'll end up joining EFTA and get a Norway style deal making the whole escapade largely pointless(but then I'm a cynical ****er :smile:

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Absolutely 0% chance of this happening.

Reply 21

Cinamon Biscuit

you are one thick **** lmao

Reply 22

username1539513

I personally don't mind having a second referendum, I was 50:50 at the polling booth anyway. But hasn't the government already ruled it out? 'Brexit means Brexit'-Theresa May

Reply 23

Ambitious1999

Original post by Karosan

2 weeks you would think they would of just accepted democracy... apparently there are still some who like the EU hate the decision of the people.

Since Brexit apparently won (by a massive majority as they see it) there has been a massive rise in racist hate crime across Britain.
Brexit has partly been a victory for right wing fanatics. Had there never been a Brexit victory or indeed a referendum then this disgusting vile racism would not be happening.

Look at what happened in Germany when Hitler was elected? A rise in hate crime against non-aryans and a lot of that was without encouragement from Hitler or the brown shirts, this violence was just a way of some celebrating Hitlers victory on their own initiative.

Reply 24

DorianGrayism

Original post by JamesN88

I think we'll end up joining EFTA and get a Norway style deal making the whole escapade largely pointless(but then I'm a cynical ****er :smile:

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Lol. I was going to say Freedom of Movement as well.....but I couldn't be bothered with the argument.

Reply 25

JamesN88

Original post by DorianGrayism

Lol. I was going to say Freedom of Movement as well.....but I couldn't be bothered with the argument.

It's a bit early in the day to kick the proverbial hornet's nest. :biggrin:

Reply 26

troubadour.

Original post by Ambitious1999

75% of Scots want to remain in the EU.

62 percent of Scots voted Remain. You could have made the point that the Scots overwhelmingly favour remaining in the EU without fabricating that number.

(edited 7 years ago)

Reply 27

BaconandSauce

Original post by JordanL_

Grow up.

I am grown up you cry baby

I hate to break it to you but in the real world not everyone is a winner and you don't always get a 'do over' when you lose

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username1204031

Original post by BaconandSauce

I am grown up you cry baby

I hate to break it to you but in the real world not everyone is a winner and you don't always get a 'do over' when you lose

You aren't grown up if you think you've "won" something.

Reply 29

BaconandSauce

Original post by JordanL_

You aren't grown up if you think you've "won" something.

We won the vote

Didn't they teach you about how this all works in school?

Reply 30

Gora The Xplorer

Original post by JordanL_

You aren't grown up if you think you've "won" something.

Well you're a big baby who has lost :biggrin:

Reply 31

ellie0497

So much democracy! Particularly with our unelected PM!

Reply 32

Gora The Xplorer

Original post by BaconandSauce

careful Gora the babies are ruining to the mods :biggrin:

They'll have a nasty wake up call when they get off the internal and are forced to live in the real world.

Reply 33

username1204031

Original post by Gora The Xplorer

They'll have a nasty wake up call when they get off the internal and are forced to live in the real world.

I have to live in the real world, that's why I don't want Brexit idiots ****ing it up.

Reply 34

999tigger

If there was one, they would lose, but there wont be one, so its a moot point. Move on.

Does this mean more fantastical threads from the OP?

Reply 35

BaconandSauce

Original post by JordanL_

I have to live in the real world, that's why I don't want Brexit idiots ****ing it up.

Poor you

Your lot lost get over it

Reply 36

tanyapotter

Original post by JordanL_

I have to live in the real world, that's why I don't want Brexit idiots ****ing it up.

If Theresa May keeps us in the single market, thus retaining free movement, then not all is lost. But I don't know how far I trust Phillip Hammond to implement this as Chancellor, given the eurosceptic he is.

Reply 37

anosmianAcrimony

Original post by Karosan

If you win one why have another... we have one so you don't like the result? Get over it you lost.

No, you give up your hopes and dreams.

Reply 38

Rorschach II

Original post by Ambitious1999

I'm fed up of Brexiters harping on about democracy and that there should not be a second referendum.

Well if they are so confident of Britians hatred of the EU and so passionate about democracy then they should relish a second referendum.

But the reality is Brexiters are Scared of losing. They know fine well that a lot of Brexit voters now regret what they did. Many thought it would never happen. So take them aside.
Then among the Brexit voters are some realists who never thought of the mess that we are now in that soon all that may be left of the Great Britain they love is England totally on its own, without Scotland or NI or the protection of the EU. Take them aside and you've probably got less than 40% pro Brexit and over 60% remain.

Of that 40% you've got mostly retired people who arn't worried about recessions, unemployment or loss of EU funding of vocational training and further education, that's around 20% And of course nationalists and small minded racist bigots making up the rest.

We want a second referendum, its in the interests of the majority!

The English population is 54.8 million or 84% according to a quick Google search.
You can't just put that aside; they constitute most of the population!

Wales also voted to leave, so that's half of the UK's constituent parts voting to leave.
To the detriment of Scotland and Northern Island, the English population of which a leave percentage is given is much, much bigger. So you commit the base rate fallacy (extension neglect.)

Original post by Ambitious1999

It was won by only 4% (52-48) a lot of those who voted Brexit now regret that they did. Take that into account and a second referendum would be a more serious vote with a clear victory for remain.

6 million have signed a petition wanting a second referendum.

75% of Scots want to remain in the EU.

Surprisingly enough 16.1 million voted to remain; those signatures on that petition could just be the salty losers.
Scotland only makes up 8% of the population; the referendum was open to 100% of the population [who are eligible.]

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Rorschach II

Original post by ellie0497

So much democracy! Particularly with our unelected PM!

The EU was clearly a worse case.

no representative inside European Commission;
MEPS cannot initiate, repeal or amend legislation;
European Council was a farce;