New terror attack france many dead

And how do we know which of these motivations it was (if any)? Are we just speculating, or do we actually know?

we know the motives based on fact and logic (unless we are playing the apologist pedant that is) are suggesting you will never be able to confirm the motives of any terrorist ( or criminal for that matter unless youve beat it out of them in confession?

Of course I'm not suggesting that.*I just want to hear the facts and logic that confirm his motives, that's all.

What are the facts that we know for sure about this incident? What logic have you used to deduce the attackers motives from these facts?

Meanwhile we chose to leave the EU so we are totally on our own without the protection of our European friends who are now our enemies no thanks to Boris Johnson, May and Damien Green.

Just what the hell can little England do on its own????

Going by the definition you've provided, yes, it is (assuming it is illegal violence rather than ordinary warfare).

So what I'm asking here is, what agenda or ideology or interpretation of Islam was this attack intended to promote?*

before i head down your road of pedantry , let me first ask you do you think you have a better theory of motive - please advise backed with evidence.

I said that based on the following definition:

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives"

No, I don't have any theories of the attacker's motives. So far I haven't seen any evidence that confirms any particular set of motives, but I'm open to being convinced.

Meanwhile we chose to leave the EU so we are totally on our own without the protection of our European friends who are now our enemies

As I said, I am not denying anything, I'm just asking you to justify it. I will be happy to accept that it is a terrorist attack as soon as someone explains what sociopolitical agenda he thought he was fighting for.

So far we've established that he's a Muslim, fine.

the facts that mohammed the muslim, jumps into a hired truck ( full of guns) and chants islamic slogan while driving into a crowd of innocent people - do not suggest any links or simialrities to other confirmed islamist attacks?*its quite easy to see why you have the reputation for pedantry. im sure if your were the lawyer defending this guy youd claim he jsut took a wrong turn. or youd want to led down the path of this guy being 'a crazy nutcase' ( which may also be the case btw, as weve seen many ppl susceptible to islamist dogma are actually deranged individuals in their own right) We get in to the realm of a past discussion i had with you where the killer was a nutcase becuase he was influenced by islamists - or an islamist who was infleunced to nutcase actions.

You are asking the wrong person. I have not claimed that the Nice attack was Islamic terrorism, only that current information suggests that it could be.

However, if it turns out that it was, I would guess it would be the particular idological agenda that the perpetrator supported, which remains to be seen.

I'm really just looking for your response to be set out in a clear and logical format so I can follow your thoughts on the matter precisely rather than vaguely, and to have your full argument in front of me rather than having to guess or infer for myself what it might be.

You mention the person may have been a "crazy nutcase". Do we have reason to believe he was mentally ill?*You also mention that this attack has similar features to other confirmed terrorist attacks. Is it mainly the phrase "Allahu Akbar" that you think confirms his motives?

Like I said you are in denial about this. So it is pointless to try and persuade you with facts. You will never accept the truth.

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is there another reason you can think of to chant islamically while killing someone?

Who?

I've said many times, yes it could be Islamic terrorism. I will accept that it definitely is as soon as someone explains what the motives were.

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