Why is gender equality still not a reality in 2016?

But the inherent issue is that the focus in the definition of feminism inherently implies females must improve their rights to gain equality to the presently superior males... your definition focuses on advocating women's rights alone, to equal men's existing rights.

"Women should be treated the same as men" - your own words, which implies that women are inferior than superior males (which is true and is important!) but nowhere does it accommodate the very valid point that in some areas men are worse off.

Nowhere does it account for the disparities and unequal treatment men encounter, nor is it suggesting anyone's rights should progress beyond existing levels?

The difference with egalitarianism is that the definition is inherently pure equality. Not equity, not focusing on female advancement, but pure equality.

Radical feminists have tainted rhe movement. It is true that these do not represent all feminists, but frankly if your views truly supported the total equality of men and women, not simply the advance of just women's rights to equalise with men, egalitarianism is the more appropriate movement.

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I do understand what you are saying. Like I said, I came to the conclusion that I support feminism going by the actual definition but I don't agree with radical feminists and I definitely care about equal rights for everyone regardless of gender, race, religion etc. so maybe I should describe myself as an egalitarian rather than a feminist. From my interpretation of the actual definitions I would say that I am both but I see what you mean about feminism not taking account of instances where men are disadvantaged which I do also care about so yes I'm probably actually an egalitarian.

Women can. Obviously, a lot don't want to though. Being able to spend more time with children is one of the greatest privileges women have and it's a shame men are not given this too.

bc brexit

What? We haven't even triggered article 50 in order to start the process of leaving the EU yet so it can't possibly be because of brexit yet. It is true that women's rights and worker's rights could be taken away in the future though because of brexit but hopefully that won't happen.

What? We haven't even triggered article 50 in order to start the process of leaving the EU yet so it can't possibly be because of brexit yet. It is true that women's rights and worker's rights could be taken away in the future though because of brexit but hopefully that won't happen.

Yes, yes you should. The F word is what puts a lot of guys off. It's not the idea of gender equality that puts guys off, it's the idea that equality movements should only be based on improving things for women.

It doesn't bother men if their partner earns more than them!

The first thing to fix to get more men at home with children would be equal maternity/paternity time.

Oops, I accidentally took it seriously because I've had some really strange responses on this thread, most of which have been serious! Aww, no you don't have to leave haha!

I believe their post was nowt but cheeky banter

I think this is only true for statutory pay unless I'm mistaken? Most women get more than that so shared parental leave is not really economically viable.

It doesn't bother men if their partner earns more than them!

The first thing to fix to get more men at home with children would be equal maternity/paternity time.

I think this is only true for statutory pay unless I'm mistaken? Most women get more than that so shared parental leave is not really economically viable.

If you're nice to a woman she won't be as attracted to you as opposed to if you was a bit of a dickhead

Employers often pay all or a significant percentage of a women's salary for longer than the statutory period.

Although I agree, the new rules are a step in the right direction

What a successful patriarchy.

I'm not sure I follow but you could just have equality? Within a company you have to have the same maternity/paternity benefit?