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France "must learn to live with terrorism" -French Prime Minister

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-07-15/french-pm-france-is-at-war-with-terrorists/

"Times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism. We have to show solidarity and collective calm. France has been hit in its soul on the 14 July, our national day."

How can this guy be fucxing serious??

Has he just handed the country over to Front Nationale?

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I interpreted that as 'we must stay calm' rather than 'we must give in'. Terrorists try to, well, cause terror, and being strong in the face of it is the biggest middle finger the people of France can collectively give to them.
Reply 2
We've had this thread already. "Learning with terrorism" doesn't mean that we should not do all we can to limit it, without sacrificing the most fundamental principles of our society. For France that would of course be "Liberté, égalité, fraternité". It means we should accept that it isn't going away any time soon, so we need to prepare ourselves mentally for that. Just as we have to "Learn to live with" the sexual abuse of children and pedophilia. We do all we can to stop it, but we have to accept that it isn't going anywhere.
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Reply 3
What next? Women must learn to live with being raped by horny economic migrants?
Reply 4
We have to keep fighting and they need to tighten the laws on borders around France.
I feel sorry for people who live there and they are scared at all the time and have to stay at home :sad:
Reply 5
Original post by offhegoes
We've had this thread already. "Learning with terrorism" doesn't mean that we should not do all we can to limit it, without sacrificing the most fundamental principles of our society. For France that would of course be:
"Liberté, égalité, fraternité".It means we should accept that it isn't going away any time soon, so we need to prepare ourselves mentally for that. Just as we have to "Learn to live with" the sexual abuse of children and paedophilia". We do all we can to stop it, but we have to accept that it isn't going anywhere.


Its not going anywhere because of weak leadership and poor policy.
He's quite clearly not saying we should just roll over and accept it, but that we need to stay calm in the face of it and learn how to deal with it rather than pretend it's just a one off and there's no need to prepare for it again.
Reply 7
Original post by welshiee
Its not going anywhere because of weak leadership and poor policy.


Well now you're looking to discuss his leadership, which is not the point I was making. My point was that his quote was misinterpreted.
Original post by welshiee
Its not going anywhere because of weak leadership and poor policy.


Or rather because there's a major terrorist organisation in the Middle East and just killing them all isn't feasible, not to mention that it wouldn't stop terrorism.
Reply 9
Original post by Ordo
We have to keep fighting and they need to tighten the laws on borders around France.
I feel sorry for people who live there and they are scared at all the time and have to stay at home :sad:


Have you seen the Nice beaches in the last few days? They aren't staying at home.
Original post by Stiff Little Fingers
Or rather because there's a major terrorist organisation in the Middle East and just killing them all isn't feasible, not to mention that it wouldn't stop terrorism.


What has that got to do with France? France could quite easily take numerous measures to reduce the risk of terrorism in its own country.
Original post by Stiff Little Fingers
He's quite clearly not saying we should just roll over and accept it, but that we need to stay calm in the face of it and learn how to deal with it rather than pretend it's just a one off and there's no need to prepare for it again.


He quite clearly did though.

Same **** different day: we must show solidarity/3 days of national mourning/light some candles/shine flag on buildings.

The most important job of any government, that must always come first, is keeping its citizens safe and the governments have failed time and time again.

Gonna laugh so hard at all the triggered lefties when FN wins by a landslide and takes France out of the EU. After that, it's AfD in Germany. This is a bonfire of neoliberalism and Juncker is the burning effigy.
If you keep bringing muslim into your country, then it's a sad fact you should be prepared for more terrorism. I'd sooner see something drastic done about it though.
Well we certainly are in a dark time.
Reply 14
Remarks like this are precisely why Marine Le Pen will win the next election.
Reply 15
Original post by offhegoes
Have you seen the Nice beaches in the last few days? They aren't staying at home.


Sorry if im bit behind the news or dont know anything but there got to be something that prevent another terrorist attack.
For the past year and a half France has averaged a terror attack once every 2 months, this is the new normal.
Reply 17
Algeria's population was 10% French and they were all deported back to France when Algeria got its independence.

France is about 10% Muslim, it would be possible to deport them back to North Africa. No Muslims = no terrorism . Unfortunately this will never happen and the end result will probably be civil war. Gun laws are pretty lax in France and they have a history of violent revolutions.
Original post by welshiee
What has that got to do with France? France could quite easily take numerous measures to reduce the risk of terrorism in its own country.


France isn't set apart from the rest of the world. IS are a global threat, and as a result they pose a threat to France.

What measures might those be? I'm going to guess close the borders, even though that would do very little, or more passport checks, because they definitely don't use fake passports :rolleyes: These terrorists are a determined bunch, there's very little that can stop them short of acquiring as much knowledge as possible on their leaders and movements, and using that to predict likely attacks, and that's not going to stop everything - hence why we need to remain calm and learn to live with the risks as the French PM has said. Even more so given tackling the root of them isn't a job that can be done in a day.

Original post by Fugggggg :DDD
He quite clearly did though.


No he didn't - he's telling people to remain calm.
Original post by Fugggggg :DDD
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-07-15/french-pm-france-is-at-war-with-terrorists/

"Times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism.


Did Germany learn to live with Bader Minhoff?

Did Italy learn to live with the Red Brigades?

Did Britain learn to live with IRA terrorism?

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