Thousands of ex-pats living in Spain forced to return home due to Brexit.

Ambitious1999

Over then next few years there will be huge exodus of Brits living and working in Spain as freedom of working and residency will cease to exist as Britain is no longer part of the EU. However the retired may not be affected as much as working age people. There will be no chance for any British citizen to claim unemployment benefits in Spain which they can do now.

Working or Studying in EU countries like Spain will still be possible but will require a work permit for which only those with essential skills need apply such as teaching, healthcare etc.
There will also be a quota on the numbers of Brits allowed to work or study in the EU.
Basically if you want to work in a beach bar you need not apply as such jobs will be offered to locals and fellow EU Citizens. Brits will no longer have that right unless they have a valued skill like teaching.

This means thousands of Brits returning home jobless and homeless. But never mind everyone's happy we got Brexit by a huge landslide majority!

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Click baiting ****.

Original post by Ambitious1999

wtf are you on about?

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ckfeister

Original post by Ambitious1999

Bullsh**

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seaholme

It's not possible to call just yet what the outcome will be. There is a cloud of over three hundred different outcomes, that nobody specifically voted for. Some of them may be this, some of them may not be. It won't be decided democratically - it will be decided by our unelected PM.

We can only wait in anticipation.

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JeremyHunt

FredorJohn is that you?

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KimKallstrom

Original post by Ambitious1999

So this is what we're reduced to? Just making up stuff like this?

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JamesN88

You put a hell of a lot of effort into dreaming up these bull **** threads. :smile:

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typonaut

Original post by KimKallstrom

So this is what we're reduced to? Just making up stuff like this?

Wasn't that the entirety of the LEAVE campaign, just making stuff up? Actually different people making different stuff up, with no coordination between them!?

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username1799249

Original post by KimKallstrom

So this is what we're reduced to? Just making up stuff like this?

I am not sure there will be an exodus, but there is anecdotal evidence it is starting already. There was an article on Radio 4's Money Programme about the fact that since UK pensions are paid in pounds, the devaluation of the pound against the Euro has hit the incomes of ex-pats really significantly. As a result, some can no longer afford to live there and have no choice but to return.

Ironic in a way. Brexit hasn't forced them to return as suggested by the OP but the economic fallout has.

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Studentus-anonymous

Original post by Ambitious1999

Basically if you want to work in a beach bar you need not apply as such jobs will be offered to locals

Ignoring your doom & gloom predictions aside (how'd that work for you guys during the refurendum run-up?), I'd say considering the state of Spain's massive unemployment figures, I can see a lot of Spaniards being quite pleased with the lack of competition from foreigners for local jobs, wouldn't you say?

What's that, you think the convenience of some British expats trumps the right of Spaniards themselves to be able to live and work in their own country?

Your rhetoric aside, the EU is bad for business, it's bad for the UK in the long run, it's certainly bad for places like Spain.
The inconvenience of a visa/residency application is a small price to pay for returning some semblance of hope for either country in general.

Anyway, I reckon your local chemists can provide you with some ointment if your butt's hurting too much.

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Twinpeaks

Original post by Studentus-anonymous

I find it so pathetic when people like you think upset over Brexit is simply "butt hurt". People like you persistently diminish the significance of Brexit. Probably to comfort yourself, to lower that cognitive dissonance that arises when the rational side of your brain (no matter how small) voices the real concerns we are currently facing.

This is a common pattern with people like you, who voted for Brexit for no good reason other than a vain ideology, regarding Britian. Another tendency is for you to reduce significant, highly probably, adverse outcomes as "doom and gloom predictions". Another cognitive mechanism you use to comfort yourself regarding a decision you endorsed to shoot your country in the foot.

Another common tendency from people like you is to vaguely utter words of "long term benefit". After continuously pestering some Brexiters on here, one of which laughably pretended to work in economics in "The City", I've yet to have been provided with an evidence-based explanation behind this so called "long term" benefit. Screw evidence based, any explanation will do.

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Juichiro

Original post by Studentus-anonymous

What's that, you think the convenience of some British expats trumps the right of Spaniards themselves to be able to live and work in their own country?

The presence of British expats does not affect the employment or residence rights of Spaniards. I think you should inform yourself before making statements like that.

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viffer

Original post by JeremyHunt

FredorJohn is that you?

He's FOJing the issues

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999tigger

Original post by KimKallstrom

So this is what we're reduced to? Just making up stuff like this?

It seems to be a trait of people on this forum, although ambitous is an expert, there are many others.

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999tigger

What will need to be sorted out ia what happens to the existing expats currently living in Europe and that will depend on what we do about the EU citizens living in the UK. If we end up sending them back or imposing restrictions, then at the very least that will be reciprocated by the EU against UK citizens.

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Plantagenet Crown

Original post by Juichiro

The presence of British expats does not affect the employment or residence rights of Spaniards. I think you should inform yourself before making statements like that.

Dale

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Gora The Xplorer

FredOrJohn has a dupe???

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typonaut

Original post by Studentus-anonymous

If you look at the facts of the matter you will find that Spain's unemployment figures are inline with historical averages - this trend pre-dates its membership of the EU, the formation of the Single Market and certainly Spain's adoption of the euro. That is to say that unemployment is endemic to Spain.

The only time in the past 30 years that there has been any difference in this fact is from around 2000 up to 2007, when the country enjoyed a considerable boom - probably on the back of its euro membership. It somehow managed to squander this away.

Your rhetoric aside, the EU is bad for business, it's bad for the UK in the long run, it's certainly bad for places like Spain.
The inconvenience of a visa/residency application is a small price to pay for returning some semblance of hope for either country in general.

The weight of business argument during the referendum campaign was that the EU is good for business. As someone with a small role in that I can certainly say that it is far easier to do any kind of business with any EU state than it is with anywhere else in the world.

Your statement about visas/residency completely misses the point. The false premise behind your certainty is that these trifling requirements would be forthcoming. This is not something you can rely upon at all - try getting yourself a working visa or residency in the USA, or Australia for that matter. Not a simple or cheap task.