Syrian rebels filmed beheading boy in Syria

We should have a poll on who you think actually controls the militant groups in Iraq/Syria!

So i'll be blunt and open about this:

Do you think, when the dust is all over, Al Nusra, arguably one of the most powerful groups in Syria, with all of their leaders (it is an official alqaeda group) will walk away, and not want some major influence in the new shariah -shurah-government in Syria?

What about Ahrar Asham, whose leaders hold a close tie to that of Al Nusra, whose founder was essentially an alqaeda member who had eulogies posted about him after his death , by Al Qaeda ?

Do you recognise where i am coming from here ? To stop syria falling into their hands against the will of the majority of syrians, who actually currently live under government control in many areas, i propose a nation-wide election, under strict UN observation, the strictest possible, and for the consensus of syrians to dictate their own future. I don't care if that means a sunni government is formed as a majority. It will be the will of the syrian people.

The fallacy, with due respect, you have made, is assuming Allah azwj approves in even a thousand of the percenth a shariah government with al nusra, ahrar et al leaders.

You're going a bit too extreme sister (with due respect), though you may have a good point on people trying to cause division and slaughter.


Do you know that John Mcain himself flew to Syria to take picture's with syrian rebels, some of whom were actually later part of Daesh?

What does the pro-israeli, John Mcain, who voted for the Iraq war, care for the muslims in Syria ?

What does King Salman of Saudi Arabia, who himself lives in a monarchy dictatorship, care about democracy in syria ?

They just want people to fight, violence to escalate, and innocent sunni's , shia's, christians etc to all just divide, and cause death and destruction.

They aren't invading countries anymore sister, they're going underground and funding proxy-wars.

The great American devil, grrrr

Possibly, although my question isn't about Sharia as understood by any group.;

My question is how you would ideally want Syria to be run.

I'm not asking you whether you want Sharia implemented by these groups.

Let's say a group hypothetically implements the Sharia how it should be implemented. Would you support them ?

At least 80% of people support the regime, I dont see where the issue is. Syria has been a stable and successful country without any issues. Why this urge for Sharia Law. Keep it secular. And who does not wanna have Asma Al Assad as their First Lady

Who are 'they' though?

A country?
An organisation?
A person?

It's the Jooooooooooz, obviously. The Jooooooooz are always behind every terror attack/murder/atrocity carried out by 'Muslims'. Everyone knows that. ISIS = Israeli Secret Service. Everyone knows that. All Muslims are perfect wonderful angels, so whenever you read about the latest Islamic atrocity supposedly carried out by 'Muslims', you can guarantee that the Joooooooooz are behind it, trying to make Islam look bad. Cos, y'know, they're so jealous of how perfect and wonderful Islam is and how perfect and wonderful and angelic all Muslims are.

(Obviously I'm being deeply sarcastic. But sadly, there are people on TSR who think like this.)

Don't insult Erdogan. Those who support jaysh al fatah / nusra/ ahrar type's get touchy when you start on him.

religion of peace strikes again

Tell me more about these 'moderate' 70,000 Cameron said we would support with air-strikes?

Brother Farhan, i have not woken up one day and decided 'let's blame american foreign policy'. Infact, many secular websites, secular and world renowned analysts are saying what i am.

If you study the background of the Syrian conflict, you'll find in an authentic wiki-leaks cable, the US government at the time, of Bush, trying to plan to exploit any weakness in Syria, and to try to use means and avenues to destabilize it.

Allah states in the Quran for one to produce evidence - or to ask one who makes a claim to produce evidence, and so here is the daleel: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS5399_a.html

Almost four or five years before the uprising, there were already plans. This is not to say that there was not a legitimate democratic uprising - there was! But it was hijacked, escalated militarily and has gone way out of hand.

Important Geopolitics:

Syria is like the golden egg in terms of US middle easy foreign policy. Syria has long been a foe to Israel, a wall and stepping stone blocking them off Iran, and a route to fund the Lebanese resistance as well as training, funding and support for Hamas and palestinian resistance groups. (Consider why Nethanyahu is so supportive of the 'rebels' ? Does he care about freedom and democracy for muslims ? Consider why even alqaeda-linked fighters are treated in Israeli hospitals). Gulf-states are also foes of Syria, and want their own hegemony and geopolitical goals in the ME, and also a way to weaken Iran.

By the will of the syrian people. If they want shariah law, then that's their problem, it's their country. This is what i am trying to argue - let the syrians decide how to move forward.

Where is your evidence for that statement? How exactly do you get reliable opinion polls in a war stricken dictatorship?

I wouldn't be surprised if there was majority "support" for Assad, considering many do not want to see Islamist extremist rebels take over. But 80% support sounds ridiculous. The rebels have a lot of support in some areas as well, otherwise there wouldn't be a civil war in the first place.

Muslim and moderate?
What does this mean exactly?

So if the Syrians want to rule with kufr / shirk you would not have a problem with it?

Just for the record, I'm not interested in discussing whether the groups you've mentioned will implement Sharia properly or not.

We haven't even reached that part yet. Our discussion is on whether you would like Sharia to be implemented or not. You're entitled to believe the groups won't implement the Sharia properly but you haven't even said you want Sharia in the first place.

No, what i am saying is, it's not my country. The Syrian people should come to an agreement as to how they want to rule their own country.

I think this is unfortunate, because the key and crux of this entire debate lies in the very fact that the very leaders of the groups who would take prominent leadership positions in the sef-styled caliphate, were the syrian arab army , Kurds, and central government to fall are:

1. Jabhat Al Nusra leaders, very powerful, and official alqaeda affiliates.
2. Ahrar asham leaders, the founder(s) having close ties with alqaeda, and the current leadership in close association with them.

The list just goes on. Do you want these people in power ?

What i would like to happen is not at all relevant. The Syrian people have a right to govern as they wish.

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Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36835678

Videos have emerged online that appear to show Syrian rebels taunting and then beheading a boy they say is a captured Palestinian pro-government fighter.One video shows five men posing with the frightened child, who could be as young as 10, in the back of a truck. One of the men grips him by the hair.The same man is later filmed apparently cutting the boy's head off.The incident is reported to have taken place in Handarat, north of Aleppo, where there has been heavy fighting.

Enab Baladi, a pro-opposition news website, said the boy was captured in Handarat by members of a local rebel group, the Nour al-Din al-Zinki Movement.It quoted Yasser Ibrahim Youssef, a member of the group's political bureau, as saying on Facebook that an independent judicial commission had been appointed to investigate the incident. Anyone proven to have been involved in any violations would be referred to military justice, he added.A legal adviser for the Western-backed Free Syrian Army was also cited by Enab Baladi as saying it would hold to account those responsible for such a violation