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Original post by selenacxoxo
Hi, does anyone know what I should learn in prep for the exam? So far I've only learnt AS Physics and Maths, some core 3 and some A2 physics. I'm already planning on learning all of A2 physics and maths this summer. Which F.Maths modules should I learn (I haven't done any of it so far.) And also, which BPhO papers should I do?


I don't think you need to learn much of F. Maths modules. Just learn the graphs of rational functions (Check the syllabus). Learn (if you haven't) :
-all of M1
-Projectiles, Work Energy Power, Potential energy, Impulse and restitution and circular motion of M2 (I am talking about OCR, might be different for other exam boards)
- Linear motion with variable forces (using differentiation and integration), elastic strings and springs, simple harmonic motion and motion round a circle with variable speed from M3.

Try to solve all past PAT papers first then only move to BPhO papers (AS challenge, if you need extra practice then A2 challenge too might help you) for Physics and MAT papers/ Senior Maths Challenge Papers for mathematics.

Good Luck!!!!
Original post by tangotangopapa2
I don't think you need to learn much of F. Maths modules. Just learn the graphs of rational functions (Check the syllabus). Learn (if you haven't) :
-all of M1
-Projectiles, Work Energy Power, Potential energy, Impulse and restitution and circular motion of M2 (I am talking about OCR, might be different for other exam boards)
- Linear motion with variable forces (using differentiation and integration), elastic strings and springs, simple harmonic motion and motion round a circle with variable speed from M3.

Try to solve all past PAT papers first then only move to BPhO papers (AS challenge, if you need extra practice then A2 challenge too might help you) for Physics and MAT papers/ Senior Maths Challenge Papers for mathematics.

Good Luck!!!!

Thank youuuu!!!
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Question 1 part b)
http://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/olympiad/Downloads/PastPapers/BPhO_Round%20_1_%20prt_%202%20_2014.pdf
Why is current in QT i1-i2? I thought it would be 2/3i 1 - 1/2 i 2 as not all the current is going to flow through QT from PT and PQ.
Original post by lawlieto
Question 1 part b)
http://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/olympiad/Downloads/PastPapers/BPhO_Round%20_1_%20prt_%202%20_2014.pdf
Why is current in QT i1-i2? I thought it would be 2/3i 1 - 1/2 i 2 as not all the current is going to flow through QT from PT and PQ.


By the symmetry of the circuit (you need to find current through QS and TS in part i anyway), current through QS is i2.
Now, obviously the current entering the point Q should equal current leaving through it (by conservation of charge). Since the current entering Q is i1 and current leaving is ( i2 + current through QT), the current through QT is i1 - i2.
Google Kirchhoff's first law for details.

Hope this helps. :smile:
Original post by lawlieto
Question 1 part b)
http://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/olympiad/Downloads/PastPapers/BPhO_Round%20_1_%20prt_%202%20_2014.pdf
Why is current in QT i1-i2? I thought it would be 2/3i 1 - 1/2 i 2 as not all the current is going to flow through QT from PT and PQ.


Original post by tangotangopapa2
By the symmetry of the circuit (you need to find current through QS and TS in part i anyway), current through QS is i2.
Now, obviously the current entering the point Q should equal current leaving through it (by conservation of charge). Since the current entering Q is i1 and current leaving is ( i2 + current through QT), the current through QT is i1 - i2.
Google Kirchhoff's first law for details.

Hope this helps. :smile:


Here is the best resource I could find. https://isaacphysics.org/concepts/cp_kirchhoffs_laws
Thanks to @PhyM23 for the link to Isaac Physics.
Original post by tangotangopapa2
Here is the best resource I could find. https://isaacphysics.org/concepts/cp_kirchhoffs_laws
Thanks to @PhyM23 for the link to Isaac Physics.


There's probably some decent resources for it on khan academy too
Original post by samb1234
There's probably some decent resources for it on khan academy too


Thank you. :smile: :smile:
Yes, Khan academy has excellent videos to learn from.
For some reason I prefer written text to videos during revision. :tongue:
Original post by tangotangopapa2
By the symmetry of the circuit (you need to find current through QS and TS in part i anyway), current through QS is i2.
Now, obviously the current entering the point Q should equal current leaving through it (by conservation of charge). Since the current entering Q is i1 and current leaving is ( i2 + current through QT), the current through QT is i1 - i2.
Google Kirchhoff's first law for details.

Hope this helps. :smile:


I think I get it know; so the current in PQ is i1, and the current in QS is i2 therefore current in QT is i1-i2 ?

Thanks :smile:
Original post by tangotangopapa2
Thank you. :smile: :smile:
Yes, Khan academy has excellent videos to learn from.
For some reason I prefer written text to videos during revision. :tongue:


khan academy has text on their website for a lot of stuff as well as videos, e.g https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/ee-circuit-analysis-topic/ee-dc-circuit-analysis/a/ee-kirchhoffs-laws
Original post by lawlieto
I think I get it know; so the current in PQ is i1, and the current in QS is i2 therefore current in QT is i1-i2 ?

Thanks :smile:


No problem :d


OK, I see. :tongue: :biggrin:
Thanks again.
Original post by tangotangopapa2
OK, I see. :tongue: :biggrin:
Thanks again.


no problem, feel free to tag me in stuff if you want help and ill do my best (except format stuff as i've never done pat)
Original post by samb1234
no problem, feel free to tag me in stuff if you want help and ill do my best (except format stuff as i've never done pat)


OK. Thanks. Definately.

Would you mind having a look at the following problem/post?
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4198061
Original post by tangotangopapa2
OK. Thanks. Definately.

Would you mind having a look at the following problem/post?
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4198061


sorry geometry was never my strong point and i haven't done many interview type questions since my interviews last december.
Original post by samb1234
sorry geometry was never my strong point and i haven't done many interview type questions since my interviews last december.


No problems.

May I ask you what are you/ will be studying?

Good luck for whatever you are doing.
Original post by tangotangopapa2
No problems.

May I ask you what are you/ will be studying?

Good luck for whatever you are doing.


If i meet my offer then phys nat sci at cam
Original post by samb1234
If i meet my offer then phys nat sci at cam



All the best !!!! :smile:
Hey guys, could any of you look at the c3 link here and look at the trig section and tell me if we need this section for the pat? or what we need? Ive finished the rest
Link:
http://www.examsolutions.net/maths-revision/syllabuses/Edexcel/period-1/C3/module.php

Let me know what you think
Good revision guide for pat is by dr matthew french there are some for sale on eBay. I used one last year and i passed my pat, it helps. Look on eBay oxford pat guide

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