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Shan masood,as an international player,should atleast have an idea that Anderson is going to target my off stump or perhaps near that.He should have tried different thing for instance leaving the ball like chanderpaul used to very unlikely he hits the ball when the bowler is not bowling a stump line.Also taking off stump so he would have better idea whether to hit or leave.Can't believe a batsman can get out 6/6 to same bowler.

I miss some test players like Dravid,Chanderpaul,Ponting,etc
Yasir Shah is a better bowler than Muhammed Amir
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Original post by Mushfiqur Rahim
Yasir Shah is a better bowler than Muhammed Amir


You're comparing apples and oranges.
Original post by Mushfiqur Rahim
Yasir Shah is a better bowler than Muhammed Amir


Legspin with pace?

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Zimbabwe are playing their first test match in a couple of years soon, in a home series against New Zealand. They've produced some great players but it must be so hard to develop a cricket side in the conditions they're in. Really hope it all goes smoothly for them, and while I worry it might be a bit of a stretch some competive cricket would be amazing too.
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I think this England performance - and result - is a massive feat considering the way they faltered at Lord's. It's pretty typical that a few star players carried them over the line (Cook, Root) but the best sides have always been reliant on one or two talismanic figures, to be honest.*

They rebounded exceptionally after the way they lost at Lord's, but were obviously boosted by the returns of Jimmy Anderson and Stokes.

If Stokes is injured, it seems to me the selectors have one of two options: Finn comes back in in the hope he plays himself into some form, or Rashid is deployed.

For what it's worth, while Moeen is struggling to impress still, it's worth remembering he boasts the third best strike rate of any English offspinner since the War. Only Swann and Jim Laker boast better figures.
Original post by Mackay
I think this England performance - and result - is a massive feat considering the way they faltered at Lord's. It's pretty typical that a few star players carried them over the line (Cook, Root) but the best sides have always been reliant on one or two talismanic figures, to be honest.*

They rebounded exceptionally after the way they lost at Lord's, but were obviously boosted by the returns of Jimmy Anderson and Stokes.

If Stokes is injured, it seems to me the selectors have one of two options: Finn comes back in in the hope he plays himself into some form, or Rashid is deployed.

For what it's worth, while Moeen is struggling to impress still, it's worth remembering he boasts the third best strike rate of any English offspinner since the War. Only Swann and Jim Laker boast better figures.


He chipped in today with 3 wickets, he may not be the best ever but he's the best we have at the moment. If his batting clicks and his bowling is a bit tighter, he could be a feared all-rounder.

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Original post by Mackay
I think there's an argument to suggest Cook's captaincy isn't a brilliant one, but as an England fan, I was more disappointed with his rigid decision making in terms of the bowlers, rather than the lack of a follow-on.

Having Broad and Anderson open the bowling, because they are the "senior" bowling partnership, rather than deploying Woakes and Stokes who are in such a rich vein of form, was pretty poor in my opinion.*


Good point. It would have surprised Pakistan if Woakes and/or Stokes had been one or both of the opening bowling partnership.
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Original post by Enginerd.
He chipped in today with 3 wickets, he may not be the best ever but he's the best we have at the moment. If his batting clicks and his bowling is a bit tighter, he could be a feared all-rounder.

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Good point. It would have surprised Pakistan if Woakes and/or Stokes had been one or both of the opening bowling partnership.


Woakes has made himself indispensable. You look at the seam attack, and he's just as vital as Anderson and Broad, if not more so, right now.

He is an inspiration to all county cricketers, because he worked tirelessly on the grass and in the nets to rectify his action, getting more elevation and focussing on movement rather than speed (something Plunkett would do well to remember!)

Hopefully Finn can come back at Edgbaston, take a few wickets, and give the selectors an even bigger headache.*
Original post by Mackay
Woakes has made himself indispensable. You look at the seam attack, and he's just as vital as Anderson and Broad, if not more so, right now.

He is an inspiration to all county cricketers, because he worked tirelessly on the grass and in the nets to rectify his action, getting more elevation and focussing on movement rather than speed (something Plunkett would do well to remember!)

Hopefully Finn can come back at Edgbaston, take a few wickets, and give the selectors an even bigger headache.*


Woakes did focus on his speed tbf, plently of interviews where he says he got his speed up and lost other parts of his game. When he adjusted to his new speed he started being more successful.

Woakes and Stokes have both proved they can bowl well and take wickets with a slightly older ball. It's not just a case of finding your best two bowlers and giving them the new ball - your bowling attack has to be able to threaten for 80 overs. More than happy with Broad and Anderson opening and our 3rd and 4th seamers being as threatening as Woakes/Stokes.
Original post by Enginerd.
He chipped in today with 3 wickets, he may not be the best ever but he's the best we have at the moment. If his batting clicks and his bowling is a bit tighter, he could be a feared all-rounder.

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Yes, the way he got the wickets - with batsmen trying to attack him - will give him confidence as it shows some STILL underestimate him and end up holing out but some will point to the runs conceded column but for the second innings that doesn't matter as much compared to the first. Swann said when Ali got the nod that he needed to contain in the first innings primarily but Moeen's working with Saqlain who was an attacking off-spinner but might have been helpful to have a specialised spin coach (maybe Swann) to work with him regularly as he'd have understood the set-up and what the captain needs from him.

Warne tweeted his line-up for the second Test and he had Ali at number three which he plays for Worcestershire so that batting uncertainty doesn't help him - maybe it's time to give him that assurance and say you're batting up the order. I know they tried him opening but is it worth giving him a chance at four if Ballance/Vince are struggling?
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Original post by Louis.
Woakes did focus on his speed tbf, plently of interviews where he says he got his speed up and lost other parts of his game. When he adjusted to his new speed he started being more successful.

Woakes and Stokes have both proved they can bowl well and take wickets with a slightly older ball. It's not just a case of finding your best two bowlers and giving them the new ball - your bowling attack has to be able to threaten for 80 overs. More than happy with Broad and Anderson opening and our 3rd and 4th seamers being as threatening as Woakes/Stokes.


Yeah that's what I'm saying. When he started to focus less on pace, he reaped benefits.

Poor SL. No win against Australia for over a decade...and that doesn't look like changing this series. Hazlewood and Lyon tore them a new one. Despite losing a couple of wickets in the first four overs, Australia look like they're sitting pretty.
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Original post by Mackay
Yeah that's what I'm saying. When he started to focus less on pace, he reaped benefits.

Poor SL. No win against Australia for over a decade...and that doesn't look like changing this series. Hazlewood and Lyon tore them a new one. Despite losing a couple of wickets in the first four overs, Australia look like they're sitting pretty.


Sri Lanka cricket is dying. West Indies are buried.
I think people sometimes ask the wrong questions with teams like Sri Lanka and the West Indies. It's always why have Sri Lanka declined? Why aren't the West Indies still at previous levels? But for me, the real question is how the **** did they manage to get so good in the first place? I'm not sure their infrastructure ensures success for them. In England we often take for granted players making a great living from test match cricket, but that's not the case in the West Indies, I guess not in Sri Lanka either, which means they can't play their best players. Maybe this isn't a surprising decline and is just reverting to the norm? Easy to forget how **** Sri Lanka were a couple of decades ago.

It is worrying though. Teams playing good quality test cricket are currently Eng/Aus/Ind/SA/NZ/Pak. Of those, Pakistan can't play at home and don't look like doing so for the forseeable future, and there are increasing rumours in South African cricket about top players being unwilling to play tests. The current crop of New Zealand players are great but again it's easy to forget how **** they were in the not too distant past. I'd hate to see test cricket confined to the big 3.
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Original post by Louis.
I think people sometimes ask the wrong questions with teams like Sri Lanka and the West Indies. It's always why have Sri Lanka declined? Why aren't the West Indies still at previous levels? But for me, the real question is how the **** did they manage to get so good in the first place? I'm not sure their infrastructure ensures success for them. In England we often take for granted players making a great living from test match cricket, but that's not the case in the West Indies, I guess not in Sri Lanka either, which means they can't play their best players. Maybe this isn't a surprising decline and is just reverting to the norm? Easy to forget how **** Sri Lanka were a couple of decades ago.

It is worrying though. Teams playing good quality test cricket are currently Eng/Aus/Ind/SA/NZ/Pak. Of those, Pakistan can't play at home and don't look like doing so for the forseeable future, and there are increasing rumours in South African cricket about top players being unwilling to play tests. The current crop of New Zealand players are great but again it's easy to forget how **** they were in the not too distant past. I'd hate to see test cricket confined to the big 3.


The SLC is - for me - the worst governing body in cricket. Even eclipsing the WICB. They completely failed to capitalise on the momentum after winning the World T20 in 2014, and have time and time again proved themselves to be out of touch.

Wonderfully humble men like Mathews deserve better. SL's players are being hung out to dry. *
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Original post by Mackay
The SLC is - for me - the worst governing body in cricket. Even eclipsing the WICB. They completely failed to capitalise on the momentum after winning the World T20 in 2014, and have time and time again proved themselves to be out of touch.

Wonderfully humble men like Mathews deserve better. SL's players are being hung out to dry. *

Is there a reason all your posts have stars on them?
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Original post by SGHD26716
Is there a reason all your posts have stars on them?


I don't do it myself. I use TSR mobile, and it appears to happen every time I press return on my keyboard! Ha.
Anyone watching Sri Lanka Australia? Kusal Mendis playing a phenomenal innings. 115* when the rest of the top 5 scored 4, 7, 0 and 9. No other batsman has even scored a half century in this match. Could be a matchwinner.
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SL have definitely fought back since the farce of the first day. You wouldn't know it looking at the scoreboard, but two full sessions were lost on day one and day two respectively.

Australia have really struggled with the spin from Herath and Sandakan, who boasted the best figures of any SL bowler on debut I believe.

I think the visitors have been a little guilty underestimating SL. All the talk pre-tour was of Australia attempting to rile Mathews and target Herath, but their top order faltered and now Mendis is swinging the game in SL's favour.

*Of course, there's plenty of cricket left in this Test - and I fully expect Australia to win it personally.
Sri Lanka were always going to suffer once Jayawardene and Sangakkara retired, the later one of the greatest batsman-keepers of all time, and Mahela, a wonderful leader and batsman.

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