With all this terrorism I expect a Terrorist NUKE in the next year.

Original post by 2016_GCSE

IS has no footy team. Also NK is a poor country that fails to keep it's people fed. ISIL is in a similar position.
NK is at a truce in war. IS is at war with the West.

NK and IS are highly equal in terms of weaponry and technology.

no no they are not.

North Korea has a massive land force and a huge stockpile of artillery, and another thing is that NK has a infrastructure to build Nukes Isis at the moment really does not

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M14B

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Original post by oShahpo

I can safely say you have no understanding how nuclear weaponry works.

I doubt if anyone in TSR does :tongue:

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oShahpo

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Original post by M14B

I doubt if anyone in TSR does :tongue:

A lot of people here did Physics or Mechanical Engineering :biggrin:

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2016_GCSE

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Original post by AperfectBalance

no no they are not.

North Korea has a massive land force and a huge stockpile of artillery, and another thing is that NK has a infrastructure to build Nukes Isis at the moment really does not

ISIL is a open nation in terms of gathering of information unlike NK restricting travelling and internet making it harder to find people in NK capable of making nukes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_equipment_of_ISIL (ISIL has demonstrated use of some advanced equipment, Drones )
So they must have good technological infrastructure to operate these.

ISIL could also hold some Nuclear specialists so you never know what could be going on.

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Lemauricien

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Britain has nuclear submarines on standby tho

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username2763536

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I'm not sure how easy it would be for terrorists to get their hands on nuclear weaponry?However what about an Islamist goverment?Pakistan already has nuclear weapons.The thing is that Mutually assured destruction only works if both sides are afraid of dying and it also relys on people acting rationally.The thinking goes that you'd be mad to use nuclear weapons because you would be nuked in return.However this doesnt work if the opponents posess a sincerly held belief in the afterlife.A lot of terrorists dont care if they die as long as they kill as many people as they can.We know people are capable of acting completely insane and if you believe you're going to paradise then you might not care about the consequences.Which is why MAD is flawed it depends on humans acting rationally and doesnt account for peoples beliefs.Nukes will probably only become easier to obtain as well as technology progresses.

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Charzhino

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You are just describing Dark Knight Rises plot with Bane stealing a nuke and threatening to bomb a major city. Like the film, your scenario is completely fiction.

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Themini

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Original post by oShahpo

To make a nuclear bomb, you need something that can produce a nuclear explosion, i.e. something that produces a sustainable nuclear chain reaction.
For this, you need to have a critical mass of an isotope, such as uranium. That means you need not only obtain a sufficient amount of uranium, but also you need to enrich it to be able to reach critical mass. How do you think a group of desert monkeys will exactly be able to obtain uranium in the first place? How about enrich? How about design the vessel that will carry the bomb?
It's impossible. Hell, a whole country (Iran) with all its resources couldn't do it without being detected.

That and the fact that the US would never give them nukes.. Guns, cars, money and missile launchers yes..but no nukes, neither would the Saudis. this thread is pointless lol but 10/10 for explaining that! Very impressed! :smile:

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JamesN88

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Original post by 2016_GCSE

NK and IS are highly equal in terms of weaponry and technology.

Where do you get this sh*it from?

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Plagioclase

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I don't. An essay on the topic that I read in Global Catastrophic Risk argued that a terrorist organisation would be unable to build a working thermonuclear device, at the very best they'd be able to build a small dirty bomb. Building a working nuclear bomb is incredibly hard.

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2016_GCSE

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Original post by JamesN88

Where do you get this sh*it from?

North Korean Tech:

ISIL Remotely Controlled Drone:

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ManiaMuse

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Original post by Robby2312

I'm not sure how easy it would be for terrorists to get their hands on nuclear weaponry?However what about an Islamist goverment?Pakistan already has nuclear weapons.The thing is that Mutually assured destruction only works if both sides are afraid of dying and it also relys on people acting rationally.The thinking goes that you'd be mad to use nuclear weapons because you would be nuked in return.However this doesnt work if the opponents posess a sincerly held belief in the afterlife.A lot of terrorists dont care if they die as long as they kill as many people as they can.We know people are capable of acting completely insane and if you believe you're going to paradise then you might not care about the consequences.Which is why MAD is flawed it depends on humans acting rationally and doesnt account for peoples beliefs.Nukes will probably only become easier to obtain as well as technology progresses.

Pakistan's nukes are all pointing at India and vice versa.

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JamesN88

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Original post by 2016_GCSE

North Korean Tech:

ISIL Remotely Controlled Drone:

Although they're way behind the West technologically they're in a different league to IS in military capability.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People%27s_Army

(edited 7 years ago)

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username2763536

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Original post by ManiaMuse

Pakistan's nukes are all pointing at India and vice versa.

Yes.But a nuclear war doesnt stay confined to one area.Theres that whole nuclear winter thing.Although Im not sure how many nukes you'd need to cause a nuclear winter.The point I was making is that MAD is flawed because the assumption is that no one would be mad enough to set off nukes but we have had mad leaders in the past and will do so again in the future.

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KatieBlogger

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Original post by Lemauricien

Britain has nuclear submarines on standby tho

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Fail to see how that helps when terrorists attack highly populated cities not oceans and their nuclear capability is fuel isn't it?

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Reply 35

Galaxie501

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Ok m8s, lets do the math.

Nuclear Weapons = Science

Islamists + Science =

Islamists + Nuke =

The answer is NO.

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oShahpo

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Original post by Themini

That and the fact that the US would never give them nukes.. Guns, cars, money and missile launchers yes..but no nukes, neither would the Saudis. this thread is pointless lol but 10/10 for explaining that! Very impressed! :smile:

Thanks

Ah ****