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If humans are meant to eat meat then why cant they eat raw meat?

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Original post by pilock
I am saying humans dont need to eat meat. There is no MEANT about it.


Lol 10/10
Original post by pilock
Do you eat raw steak, chicken, and fish?


steak and fish yes
chicken no
Original post by M14B
Have you consumed anything you should not have tonight?


No :tongue:

You're the one you said "Humans aren't meant to eat meat", and therefore shouldn't.- I pointed out another thing we aren't "meant" to do but still do, including yourself.

I'm not the one who is cherry picking arguments about what we aren't meant to do so shouldn't or should. You are so I fail see your point.
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Of course you can eat raw meat. Good luck not getting ill.
Humans have evolved on the basis of being able to cook. We essentially used to have a second stomach. The appendix, it would help us digest all the grass and whatever else we'd eat at the time. Since learning to cook however, the appendix basically stopped being needed and gradually decreased in size until it became a useless thing that can occasionally try to kill is. It's just evolution. The "natural" thing for us to do now is to cook. So the raw meat argument is invalid.

Don't get me wrong, I'm vegetarian. Your argument is just stupid.

Edit: Just wanted to add vitamin B12 as an example. It's very common in grass and animals that eat grass. We used to eat grass ourselves back when the appendix was actually useful, but since learning to cook we started getting it from eating the animals instead. Without meat (or at least milk), there's actually no "natural" way for us to get vitamin B12.
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Original post by Stiff Little Fingers
There's no points to argue against. You're waffling about how we're not carnivores. I've not disagreed with that. The problem lies in you not understanding that not carnivore =/= herbivore. You're creating a false dichtomy.



But as I said: WE. CAN'T. DIGEST. CELLULOSE. IT PASSES STRAIGHT THROUGH




We'll start then with our much shorter intestine than that of a herbivore.




Same reason I'm adamant the sun rises in the east - because it's fact.



Just plain incorrect. Dietary Vitamin B12 is derived from animal sources



Claiming humans are herbivores isn't based off any kind of fact





PREDOMINANTLY not EXCLUSIVE






Well this is just plain false - any source for your human gastric acid pH claim?



Science and evidence aren't your friend - pseudoscience is your friend if you're claiming falsehoods.

As for the idea that illnesses means we shouldn't eat it; putting aside the problems with intensively reared meat, as with everything Sola Dosis Facit Venenum (the dose makes the poison) - opportunistic omnivores ate predominately fruits and seeds, with meat added when available (as I've said so many times - like talking to a brick wall), not as the core of a diet.

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Amazing presentation of facts! I had a discussion with this fool 'pilock' yesterday and he has no clue. Well done.*
Humans are not MEANT to mix jägermeister with redbull either. And yet...
How in the name of **** did this thread get to 8 pages?

10/10.
You can. It's just safer to cook it.Also a freshly killed animal is going to be body temperature. Which is the preferred temperature people like eating food at.
Original post by Stiff Little Fingers
But as I said: WE. CAN'T. DIGEST. CELLULOSE. IT PASSES STRAIGHT THROUGH


Cellulose, also known as dietary fiber is required within the human body, just because we cannot digest it doesn't mean we don't need it. Cows who eat purely grass MUST break down cellulose into glucose for respiration, and therefore have specialised digestive systems just for this process. We do not because of our very varied diet (and before you throw your personal opinions and say "yes including animals" - glucose is produced by plants and this is where every animal gets it from.

But let me level with you, I only eat plants (and thus cellulose) I really don't know how I'm alive right now ://////////////// I can't digest it and every day is a struggle ://///////////// Please send help right away.



Original post by Stiff Little Fingers
We'll start then with our much shorter intestine than that of a herbivore.


We'll start then with our much longer intestine than carnivores or omnivores*


Original post by Stiff Little Fingers

Same reason I'm adamant the sun rises in the east - because it's fact.


Care to use some evidence to back up your facts? Didn't think so.


Original post by Stiff Little Fingers
Just plain incorrect. Dietary Vitamin B12 is derived from animal sources


Just plain incorrect. B12 is given to animals, B12 is produced by bacteria. Again, please use google.

Original post by Stiff Little Fingers
Claiming humans are herbivores isn't based off any kind of fact


I've been using facts and studies and you've been using personal opinions and mine are the ones not based off any kind of fact.



Original post by Stiff Little Fingers
PREDOMINANTLY not EXCLUSIVE



Let's compare PREDOMINANTLY to human diets today



Original post by Stiff Little Fingers
Science and evidence aren't your friend - pseudoscience is your friend if you're claiming falsehoods.


:biggrin::biggrin: Please don't recomment without using some real scientific evidence yourself

Original post by Stiff Little Fingers
As for the idea that illnesses means we shouldn't eat it; putting aside the problems with intensively reared meat, as with everything Sola Dosis Facit Venenum (the dose makes the poison) - opportunistic omnivores ate predominately fruits and seeds, with meat added when available (as I've said so many times - like talking to a brick wall), not as the core of a diet.


Humans are BEST suited to eating a plant based diet - this makes us herbivores. Just because humans eat meat does not suddenly make us omnivores, we simply do not have the anatomical adaptations to deal with it . For example, following your logic, we might aswell call cats omnivores as they can be seen eating grass (to aid in digestion). NO.



Here's also a man who ate a plane, oh **** guys, we're plane-i-vores

Heart disease is the number one killer, here's a study on how vegans have 26% less heart disease and 68% less diabetes: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/

It is this belief that humans are omnivores is what will kill you, literally.
Original post by Another
I eat raw bacon all the time


Pork is pretty bad to eat raw compared with beef, but even then you're unlikely to die from it. OP is a vegetarian shill, he clearly hates humanity and our natural inclinations to devour less creatures.
Original post by pilock
Why does it have to be cooked?

If humans are meant to eat meat- then why can they survive without eating meat and still be healthy?

Just because you can do something it doesn't mean you are meant to do it. Just because you were born into a society were something is the norm- it doesn't mean it was meant to be that way. Just because something has been happening for thousands of years it doesn't mean it has to continue happening. All these arguments that are made for meat is weak.


Ever heard of sushi and steak tartare? :tongue:
OP is a salty vegetarian, he doesn't care about facts. You can see this from the low test passive-aggression inherent in his posts, you must eat at least one steak every day to to avoid turning into him.
Original post by Atlas Thugged
OP is a salty vegetarian, he doesn't care about facts. You can see this from the low test passive-aggression inherent in his posts, you must eat at least one steak every day to to avoid turning into him.


Must be all that testosterone that he's lost huh :colone:
Original post by Good bloke
If the good Lord had meant us to eat raw food He would not have given us fire.


All the myths agree that we stole it for ourselves.
Original post by anosmianAcrimony
All the myths agree that we stole it for ourselves.


The Good Lord helps those who help themselves.
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The thing is, humans can eat raw meat, it's just a matter of preference
Humans are not supposed to eat meat, they choose to eat meat.

Humans are actually herbivores
Original post by Atlas Thugged
Pork is pretty bad to eat raw compared with beef, but even then you're unlikely to die from it. OP is a vegetarian shill, he clearly hates humanity and our natural inclinations to devour less creatures.


Indeed. I wouldn't recommend it for everyone, but it won't send you to the hospital either!

The only times I've gotten ill from eating food was because of my lactose intolerance flaring up
Original post by jaffacakes101
Humans are not supposed to eat meat, they choose to eat meat.

Humans are actually herbivores



I hope you're not serious.The mere fact that humans can choose to eat meat proves we're not herbivores.Herbivores dont have a choice they have to eat plants as they cant digest meat.Seriously try giving a cow meat and nothing else see what happens.

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