Stop doing terrible degrees!

History and English (especially at RG unis) are two competitive courses to get into and are respected by employers. 70% of graduate jobs don't require or prefer a specific degree- there are plenty of history and English grads in top jobs like law, accounting, research, banking, politics etc...

It's just that some history and English grads aren't focused enough on securing a good graduate job and dont build up good work experience and extra curricular activities and therefore aren't as employable. Engineering and medicine are exceptions to the whole thing because they are vocational degrees which are designed to prepare you for a specific career.

Not at all, although you might be better off doing a different (but somewhat relevant) degree then doing a PGCE.

I think all degrees are relevant however yes some are stronger and preferred(can be applied to more than one role) but I disagree that STEM subjects are vocational,especially engineering. I know many people with engineering degrees that have gone into finance,accounting,banking,architecture,building,teaching (math,physics etc.) and other fields

What an ignorant and racist comment. I guess your brain is under-developed to make such assumptions.

Would it make much difference? Surely it'd be fine as long as I earn the QTS whilst doing the primary education degree?

Hi,

I know my making this post is going to raise a lot of anger, especially among the new-age mob who say passion and determination are the only factors levying success, but sadly I have seen a lot of posts giving students terrible advice regarding their academic future by telling them a degree in a non-vocational and non-traditional subject will have little impact on their future job prospects. Put simply, it is morally indefensible to advice young people that a degree in some bizarre liberal arts discipline is a good use of their one-off student loan; employers nowadays have an abundance of graduates whom to choose from and being disadvantaged in one aspect of your personal profile because you were fed misinformation by your peers will lead many young graduates fighting it out for low-paid employment.

Of course there will be people who will tell you how they've become a millionaire with their English degree from London Met, but we also need to have a sense of perspective. Do not go to university if you are not sure what you want to do with the rest of your life. University is expensive. And is £50,000 of student debt a burden you want to carry when you don't even have an end-plan in mind? There are a lot of graduate opportunities available for students who graduate from any university with a 2:1, but if you don't possess much added-experience alongside your academic qualifications, then the subject discipline holds a lot relevance. My Area Manager, who is a young graduate, told me that he was informed during his application process that students with "weak degrees in weak subjects" are ignored during selection. He said the degree that you choose to study at university says a lot about you as a person and the level of work ethic you acquire as well. Spending time in industry and developing proper work experience is a much better and more efficient use of time for those who don't know what they want to do than going to university, as work experience is paramount for employers and the on-the-work pay is an added bonus as well.

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Remember, just because you're "passionate about something, it doesn't mean you're good at it".

Shut up. women's studies and modern feminism are a great choice. when I leave I am going to become a Internet blogger and earn £100's a year

Good
- Engineering
- Medicine
- Dentistry
- Veterinary Science
- Mathematics
- Physics
- Chemistry
- Economics
- Accounting
- Nursing
- Computer Science
- Law

Bad
- English
- History
- Gender Studies
- Media Studies
- Cultural Studies
- Biology
- Sociology
- Psychology
- Languages
- Theology
- Sport Science
- Business
- Design

Languages are considered bad degrees? Why so?

How is Biology a bad degree....

Not to go all ad-hominem on you, but a degree in Chinese from Leeds is as good as any liberal arts degree you condemn so much..

Ever studied Women's Studies?

Know what it entails?

Know the type of work WMST go on to do?

No?

I ask because people mock WMST, while having no actual basis for their claims - experiential, experimental, or otherwise.

Oh, and to pre-empt the predictable retort: double-majored in History and WMST, studying Law. WMSTwas not only demanding but enlughtenong.

How is Biology a bad degree....

I guess it's be they don't lead to a job straight away. For example with medicine you know that the student wants to end up as a doctor. His list is stupid and incredibly closed minded. Just be a language or biology doesn't lead to a specific job doesn't mean they're useless.