Survey: Only 18% of Germans would fight for their country

Being reminded of Germany's past does not equal telling us that we are bad people. Staying in touch with our awful history (committed by a completely different set of people two generations ago) is an important reminder and prevention mechanism of this from happening again. This doesn't cause guilt, this causes reflection and learning. I wish the BBC would show more about how the British Empire exacerbated the Irish famine, partitioned India, ran torture centers in Aden or the Boer concentration camps. It would teach you loud-mouthed Brits some much-needed humility and perspective.



Only one refugee residence being torched is one too many and a crime against humanity. If you disagree, please kill yourself right now.



Yep, they are tax-paying, passport-holding, xenophobic, racist cretins that any sensible politician is right not to listen to. They are a small minority - do you even know the AfD numbers? The Brexit referendum showed what happens when you give 'the people' a voice. I'll have highly educated elites make decisions for me any day rather exposing my country to the will of moronic, short-sighted peasants - I am much closer to the former than the latter. I don't want my country to end up like Britain.

So you don't want democracy.

Doesn't seem like you reflected too much on your history when you wrote that last paragraph.

Heil

Progress.

Of all the things to fight for "your country" is one of the stupidest.

Hardly, it's quite possibly one of the most sensible things to fight for. Your country is where you live, it's where your communities are, it's where the people you're living and interacting with and building relationships with on a daily basis are.

So you don't want democracy.

Doesn't seem like you reflected too much on your history when you wrote that last paragraph.

Heil


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Sorry Heiko Mass but this you can tell to foreigners. As someone who can speak German abd regulary watch german media I can say it is not only about money.

You are constantly reminded by your own media that you are basically evil people. Every day yoz can find a doku about the Third Reich on ARD and the newspaper make at least in one news a reference to that period. The BRD media are so political correct that even the UK media outlets like Guardian is a right-wing paper conpared to them.



Haha. Firstly, it was recently discovered that at least the half of the burning are comiteed by refugees itelfs (usually accidentaly). Your media declare this as right-wing atracks even before the police ended the investigation. You are being feeded by a myth just like few months ago it was discovered that a 30 million euro refugee center was branded by a refugee because the guy was upset for not receiving proper meal for ramadan.

Secondly, the "xenophobes" as you call them are citizens and paying taxes to the BRD for years. They have a say and rights more than the refugees whether you like it or not. Merkel never consultated the people if they wish to accept million of muslim migrants. They are not a minority considering the success of afd in all federal states.

That implies your community is under direct threat. I would have fought in the Paris Commune for example. No problem. That was distinctly non nationalist though... It was the people fighting for their country that would have been trying to kill me...

A hell of a lot of wars were/are about going off to fight in some distant land for the interests of people who do not give the slightest **** about you beyond ensuring that you are able to prop up their privileged and domination over you.

Reminds me of this Banks quote.


“There has seldom if ever a shortage of eager young males prepared to kill and die to preserve the security, comfort and prejudices of their elders, and what you call heroism is just an expression of this simple fact; there is never a scarcity of idiots.”

Well I thought that was the implication. Fight for your country meaning that you would fight to protect it.*

In my view, it is better to fight for a philosophy you believe in rather than for something like a country. It would be a great mistake to fight for my country purely for the reason it is my country.

Progress.

Of all the things to fight for "your country" is one of the stupidest.

It is every red-blooded Englishman's duty to fight the French.

Totally irrelevant.

Anybody can claim "I am a proud patriot and I would fight and die for my country", it means jack **** unless you're willing to join up, do the training and serve.

Haha dream on. You wish to turn UK into a patological society like the BRD.

and the Empire did more good than harm to the world.

Fu.ck you. At this point you seem to be a troll. I.sinecerly hope some rapefugee attack your female member of family than tell us do you still hold this opinion, Merkelboy

So.you think it is ok to steal their money and than ignore their opinion? How liberal from you indeed.

There are polls suggesting 60% of Germans are not in favour of accepting refigees. They are in fact a quiet majority.

They do not necesarly vote AfD but since you mention it, yes the AfD is getting stronger. In all state elections they managed to score 15-25%

Of what do you think whom will Brexit harm more? The german car industry or the UK?

Well said.

In fact, to prevent those xenophobic, racist peasants from ruining things, Germany needs a strong ruler who can stand up to the tyrannical masses and suspend democracy. We should also invade intolerant countries, like Poland, France, Russia, in order to spread tolerance and enforce diversity. Then we really need to find a final solution to the racist problem. Maybe sterilise everyone and force adoption of African children? Then we can say hello to a new Europe: a tolerant Europe. A diverse Europe.

Fascists are nationalist by definition, and xenophobic by necessity. Why use three words when one would have sufficed? I thought Germans were efficient.

It is your country that has doomed itself to irrelevancy, at least in the long term, with its extremely low birth rate, a symptom of a phobia of risks taken to irrational levels, views of gender roles unsuited to the 21st century, and an irrational fear of pro-natalist policies.

The UK's population will surpass Germany's within our lifetimes, and soon after, the power will pass from Germany to the UK.