French mayor bans burkinis

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Reply 20

Jack22031994

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France has a strong tradition of secularism. If you don't like it, tough.

Reply 21

_Fergo

Original post by HAnwar

Yes, how dare a woman cover up and choose what she'd like to do with her own body.

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When the wear is clearly disproportionate compared to the society hosting her, then it is up to the society to decide whether that is acceptable or not.

And, as above, go tell that to Saudi Arabia. Or any other traditional Muslim country.

Reply 22

username2763536

Original post by childofthesun

Ridiculous on so many levels. Firstly, how on earth do burkinis signify an allegiance to a terrorist movement? Next thing you know by wearing a simple hijab you might as well be waving the Daesh flag.

'Good customs' is the founding principle of the French Republic, but evidently good customs doesn't include the right for women to dress as they please. People criticise Saudi for their strict regulations on female dressing, but I wonder how many will extend criticism to the French in this case, or is feminism only about being able to wear bikinis and the right not to be covered up? :rolleyes:

Thierry Migoule labels the burkini as ostentatious- I wonder if he knows what the word means?

Liberté, égalité, fraternité!

Wearing a burkini signifies that you hold your religion to be more important than anything else.Since
its not actually a requirement to wear one in Islam, its taking islam to the extreme.The difference is that in saudi its not a choice to be covered up and this is an extension of that.Muslim women are forced or indoctrinated into believing they must cover up.They dont do it out of free choice.By banning it we're protecting their right to free expression and the right not to be forced into covering up.Using liberty,equality and fraternity in that context is just bastardising the original meaning of the term since Islam is completely at odds with enlightenment values.

Reply 23

username945663

Original post by Robby2312

I don't think you know much about Islam.

Reply 24

mercuryman

Original post by Ribbit1234

It won't work so the French president can go f himself. They banned the burka too, but subhanallah, praise be to God, it didn't stop Muslim women from wearing it. Bless the French Muslim sisters in France x

And why on bloody earth would you want to wear a burka? Do you even know what that is?

Reply 25

Nadile

I'm all for banning certain types of clothing in professional situations like work and school. However, when the country tries to impose on people what to wear in their everyday life then that's wrong. Saying to women that they are not allowed to cover up is just as bad as telling them that they have to. What if someone wanted to cover up for non religious reasons? Also the reason they give... how does a burkini support terrorism? This is just getting silly

Reply 26

username945663

Original post by mercuryman

And why on bloody earth would you want to wear a burka? Do you even know what that is?

Full body cover?

Reply 27

TeenRose29

Utterly ridiculous it's a flipping swimsuit. 😑

Reply 28

username471863

I don't see how Burkinis show an allegiance to any terror group, he's pretty much accusing all Muslims of having an allegiance with terrorists, as the Burkini is nothing more than religious swimwear.

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Reply 29

mercuryman

Original post by IdeasForLife

Full body cover?

Yes. Mate it's no surprise France have banned this. Just want on earth is this, it's making me feel sick, this is not islamic at all.

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Reply 30

Observatory

Original post by Robby2312

Saudi laws surely don't apply in France, where it would be a free choice.

Reply 31

username945663

Original post by mercuryman

Yes. Mate it's no surprise France have banned this. Just want on earth is this, it's making me feel sick, this is not islamic at all.

What proof have you got for things like niqab burkha etc not being islamic?

Reply 32

IYGB

Original post by teenhorrorstory

The mayor of Cannes has banned the wearing of burkinis - full-body swimsuits - on the beaches of the French Riviera resort famous for its annual film festival, officials said on Thursday.
Mayor David Lisnard signed off on the ruling that "access to beaches and for swimming is banned to anyone who does not have (bathing apparel) which respects good customs and secularism," which is a founding principle of the French republic.
"Beachwear which ostentatiously diplays religious affiliation, when France and places of worship are currently the target of terrorist attacks, is liable to create risks of disrupting public order (crowds, scuffles etc) which it is necessary to prevent," it says.
Thierry Migoule, head of municipal services for the town, sought to clarify the ruling's intent.
"We are not talking about banning the wearing of religious symbols on the beach ... but ostentatious clothing which refers to an allegiance to terrorist movements which are at war with us," he said.

Burkinis banned on Cannes Riviera beaches by French mayor - The Telegraph
https://apple.news/AVJQTqAaaRaKTNe5_BrQzIQ

Thoughts?? I think this is quite frankly ridiculous.

I think she is absolutely right

Reply 33

cashcash871

Let them wear what they want. They shouldn't be forced to wear actual bikinis much like they shouldn't be forced by anyone to wear burkinis.

Reply 34

MeYou2Night

Everyone saying, "we can't do this!, it'll push Muslims in to the hands of Isis".

I'm sorry, but if we shouldn't do this due to avoid upsetting Muslims and turning them into terrorists, doesn't that say something about Muslims and Islam?

It's just a cancer on the world like any other religion. Religions are evil and were invented by men to control women.

Reply 35

cashcash871

I bet if bikinis were banned in France there would be a madness. I don't see how this is any different.

Reply 36

remiremi

Original post by Nadile

Also the reason they give... how does a burkini support terrorism? This is just getting silly

It's estimated around 150 women all over the EU are murdered in religious honour killings every year (we get 10-15 alone in England every 12 months), mostly over stuff like what they decide to wear or who they decide to date.

I don't really think it's getting silly, European governments have got to combat this kind of violence in families somehow.

Banning full body Burkas and telling Islamic community here that it's not acceptable in the west is just one such fix.

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Reply 37

Trapz99

Ban the burkini/burqa. It's absolutely ridiculous for me not to even be able to identify who's who. What's if it's a male terrorist or a robber under there? Faces should be visible at all times.

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Reply 38

MeYou2Night

Original post by cashcash871

I bet if bikinis were banned in France there would be a madness. I don't see how this is any different.

Totally different. Bikinis don't represent a religion. France has a strong secular belief. Nobody makes anyone live in France so if they think don't like it, they can leave, maybe to Saudi Arabia or Iran and then see how they feel about Islamic attitudes towards women. They'll be running back to Europe I can assure you.

Reply 39

mercuryman

Original post by IdeasForLife

What proof have you got for things like niqab burkha etc not being islamic?

We've discussed this in ISOC.
There are a few Hadiths that hint the niqab. (Yes, this isn't even in the Quran)

But nothing supports the burka though. There is no evidence for it whatsoever.