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Studying medicine in bulgaria or romania

Hi guys. I am considering applying abroad for medicine as a back up option. I am currently about to take a gap year and atm i am studying my ukcat. I was wondering if anyone could give advice on studying abroad for medicine such as the pros and cons and what medical universities would they advice. Any help would be much appreciated.

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Hi there again,
I was also debating on this topic, whether to apply as a backup. But have you thought about getting a biomedicine degree here first? Then you could apply for graduate entry, or the normal A100 course. And if this doesn't work out you always have the abroad plan.

Pros- cheap in terms of tuition fees and living costs. Before you could come back and apply for fy2 posts without taking the plab exam. But I am not sure how in 6 years it will work especially regarding Brexit.

Cons- quality of education ? Are you ready to learn a whole new language and live independently abroad, while taking on one of the hardest courses?

Good luck
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Original post by Optimistsan98
Hi there again,
I was also debating on this topic, whether to apply as a backup. But have you thought about getting a biomedicine degree here first? Then you could apply for graduate entry, or the normal A100 course. And if this doesn't work out you always have the abroad plan.

Pros- cheap in terms of tuition fees and living costs. Before you could come back and apply for fy2 posts without taking the plab exam. But I am not sure how in 6 years it will work especially regarding Brexit.

Cons- quality of education ? Are you ready to learn a whole new language and live independently abroad, while taking on one of the hardest courses?

Good luck

Hello haha.
Yeah I considered doing neuroscience but I'm thinking its even more difficult to get into medicine via being a graduate but its certainly an option. It says on a lot of the bulgarian and romanian medical schools that its degree being GMC approved will not be affected by brexit, so that shouldnt be a problem. Yeah the quality of the education might not be as good. im not sure which bulgarian uni is the best in terms of quality of education So i'm not sure haha
[QUOTE="PND98;66927758"]Hello haha.
Yeah I considered doing neuroscience but I'm thinking its even more difficult to get into medicine via being a graduate but its certainly an option. It says on a lot of the bulgarian and romanian medical schools that its degree being GMC approved will not be affected by brexit, so that shouldnt be a problem. Yeah the quality of the education might not be as good. im not sure which bulgarian uni is the best in terms of quality of education So i'm not sure haha[/QUOTE

Oh ok that's good to know. I haven't thought about the Bulgarian ones. Looking at the Romanian ones. Sorry..
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Original post by PND98
Hello haha.
Yeah I considered doing neuroscience but I'm thinking its even more difficult to get into medicine via being a graduate but its certainly an option. It says on a lot of the bulgarian and romanian medical schools that its degree being GMC approved will not be affected by brexit, so that shouldnt be a problem. Yeah the quality of the education might not be as good. im not sure which bulgarian uni is the best in terms of quality of education So i'm not sure haha[/QUOTE

Oh ok that's good to know. I haven't thought about the Bulgarian ones. Looking at the Romanian ones. Sorry..


do u know anyone studying medicine abroad?
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Original post by Optimistsan98


do u know anyone studying medicine abroad?


Yeah one of my friends
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Original post by Optimistsan98
Original post by PND98


Yeah one of my friends[/QU
cool. which uni is ur friend studying at? how is your friend finding it?
Be very aware that although the course may be taught in English, the rest of the University and the city you are in will not be English speaking.

Do not underestimate the sense of isolation, homesickness and culture/communication problems this will create. The reality of studying in a different country where you don't speak the local language is very different from what the Universities offering such courses might imply. Remember - all they are interested in is your money and they will always suggest that studying overseas is problem-free.

Also remember that if you start a Medicine degree overseas, you will not be able to transfer back to a UK Uni to complete your degree here, so if you start a Medicine degree in Romania or Hungary you'll be there for the entire course, and you wont be part of the NHS system for post-qualification foundation years.
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Original post by returnmigrant
Be very aware that although the course may be taught in English, the rest of the University and the city you are in will not be English speaking.

Do not underestimate the sense of isolation, homesickness and culture/communication problems this will create. The reality of studying in a different country where you don't speak the local language is very different from what the Universities offering such courses might imply. Remember - all they are interested in is your money and they will always suggest that studying overseas is problem-free.

Also remember that if you start a Medicine degree overseas, you will not be able to transfer back to a UK Uni to complete your degree here, so if you start a Medicine degree in Romania or Hungary you'll be there for the entire course, and you wont be part of the NHS system for post-qualification foundation years.

true but they'll be other students similar to u, so its not like you're completely isolated. But can't you not return to the UK once you've completed your degree as its GMC accredited
Original post by PND98
true but they'll be other students similar to u, so its not like you're completely isolated. But can't you not return to the UK once you've completed your degree as its GMC accredited


Be aware that all the patients you will be treating will be Rumanian/Bulgarian and are very much less likely to be able to speak English than the staff at the university. Are you quite sure you will be able to understand what they are saying about their symptoms in their native language? How confident are you in your ability to diagnose their illness in this situation?
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Original post by Carnationlilyrose
Be aware that all the patients you will be treating will be Rumanian/Bulgarian and are very much less likely to be able to speak English than the staff at the university. Are you quite sure you will be able to understand what they are saying about their symptoms in their native language? How confident are you in your ability to diagnose their illness in this situation?


i was told that they provide translators for u?
Original post by PND98
i was told that they provide translators for u?


While you are studying, I imagine. I doubt that would last once you had graduated. As I see you have already asked the question, I am glad you are considering how easy it is to transfer back to the UK, because they may not make it easy.
Original post by PND98
i was told that they provide translators for u?


I wouldn't bank on this. This would be highly expensive. The staff you work with may translate on an ad hoc basis, but I was always under the impression that you would be expected to gain a good grasp of the language for clinical years.
Plus if you don't speak the language how can you be sure you're truly getting the correct message via the translator. Not that they would lie, but so much crucial information lies in the patient history, you'd want to be able to take it first hand. Not to mention, conducting every consultation via a translaotion would be incredibly frustrating.
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Original post by Carnationlilyrose
While you are studying, I imagine. I doubt that would last once you had graduated. As I see you have already asked the question, I am glad you are considering how easy it is to transfer back to the UK, because they may not make it easy.


do u have any advice on my situation; I am a scottish student and I have just finished school. I got an A in advanced higher biology and a B in Advanced Higher Chemistry. 5As in Higher Psychology, chemistry, biology, geography, mathematics and a B in Higher Modern Studies. 7As in National 5/intermediate 2 biology, chemistry, mathematics, modern studies, geography, german, accounting and a B in National 5 English. I am about to take a gap year, I'm still to do the ukcat, but if I do mess up my ukcat would do u reckon i should do. I have an offer for neuroscience second year entry as well. Any advice would be much appreaciated
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Original post by ForestCat
I wouldn't bank on this. This would be highly expensive. The staff you work with may translate on an ad hoc basis, but I was always under the impression that you would be expected to gain a good grasp of the language for clinical years.
Plus if you don't speak the language how can you be sure you're truly getting the correct message via the translator. Not that they would lie, but so much crucial information lies in the patient history, you'd want to be able to take it first hand. Not to mention, conducting every consultation via a translaotion would be incredibly frustrating.

that is very true. But surely they must have a way to make this easier cause nearly all the students wont have a good grasp of the language.
Original post by PND98
that is very true. But surely they must have a way to make this easier cause nearly all the students wont have a good grasp of the language.


Perhaps. But I wouldn't underestimate the difficult of treating patients who don't speak the same language. Plus it isn't all about the medical students. The younger generations might not mind, and probably speak very good English. But how many older patients will want to have to go through a translator because their medical student hasn't bothered to learn the language. Why would they want to go through that in their own country, why should they?
Original post by PND98
do u have any advice on my situation; I am a scottish student and I have just finished school. I got an A in advanced higher biology and a B in Advanced Higher Chemistry. 5As in Higher Psychology, chemistry, biology, geography, mathematics and a B in Higher Modern Studies. 7As in National 5/intermediate 2 biology, chemistry, mathematics, modern studies, geography, german, accounting and a B in National 5 English. I am about to take a gap year, I'm still to do the ukcat, but if I do mess up my ukcat would do u reckon i should do. I have an offer for neuroscience second year entry as well. Any advice would be much appreaciated


I'll leave you in the specialist hands of @ForestCat, but what I would say is that studying abroad like this is unlikely to be the answer. I would keep trying here if I were you. Living in Bulgaria/Rumania is not going to be for the faint-hearted, and as FC says, I have always understood that you are expected to learn the language. Since no school here teaches Bulgarian/Rumanian, it's going to be by total immersion from scratch and that is very, very difficult when you are juggling a medicine degree as well. However, you should read the many threads on this medicine forum from those who have done it/considered it and see what they have to say.
Original post by PND98
that is very true. But surely they must have a way to make this easier cause nearly all the students wont have a good grasp of the language.


I think you need to consider how you would feel if your doctor didn't speak a word of your language when you consulted him or her.
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Original post by Carnationlilyrose
I think you need to consider how you would feel if your doctor didn't speak a word of your language when you consulted him or her.


yeah that would be very fustrating
Original post by PND98
yeah that would be very fustrating


Not to mention that it could lead to wrong diagnoses.

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