I can Solve the so called housing crisis easily

Yeah but capitialism let the idea and company flourish, giving them their job.

You could live, you just couldn't have "nice things", which obviously you deem more important than what you believe in. Typical Champagne socialist aren't you?

Ad hominem after ad hominem. The main reason we have the immigration you complain about is simply to satisfy the ideology you are defending here, capitalism. Thus by trying to solve the housing crisis through reversing immigration you are attempting to have your cake and eat it. Applying simple solutions such as this doesn't work in the real world.

I never complained about immigration so don't put words in mouth. My fiancée is an immigrant and so is my best friend.

I said there are too many people. It's just that reducing immigration is the easiest way to help bring population down unless we sterilise people or have a one child policy. Which would you pick?

@TheDefiniteArticle tell him your plan

Solid argument.
Is the root cause of high murder rates too many people as well?

Nothing it do with people moving. It's because of rich land owners deliberate refusing for new houses to be built on their land.

Also, the government isn't building enough houses because the more affordable houses there are the less the Banks can make a profit

I'm afraid it's not the case that we have too many people. In fact, only 6.8% of the UK is actually built on and now woodland is calculated to cover 12.7% of the UK, the highest proportion since 1924 when records began. Also by looking at the various population growth rates of European countries the UK is 11th out of the 31 countries with a growing population (%change on year greater than zero). Other countries such as Spain, Sweden, Norway and Ireland have greater population growth rates than the UK yet do not suffer a so-called housing crisis. This therefore helps to debunk the myth that the UK housing crisis is a demand side issue as you keep on insisting when in fact it is one of supply.

You could argue that the Irish have a 'housing crisis' but they currently have lower house prices than the UK in real terms which further implies that the UK issue is one of supply given that the Irish have a higher population growth rate than the UK.

No it's not wrong that figure includes all the countries roads, industrial space, houses, gardens, parks etc.

2 or 3 percent is simply the footprint of houses.

The m6 is going to be there regardless of houses and gardens/parks are more environmentally friendly than a barren field


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I said there are too many people. It's just that reducing immigration is the easiest way to help bring population down unless we sterilise people or have a one child policy. Which would you pick?

Why not put your money where your mouth is? Are you and your fiance offering to leave for the good of everyone else?

We already own houses in France, Spain and San Francisco so yeah could leave anytime. Know anyone who'd like a house in Mayfair and/or Somerset?

No. You're stupid.

Rates are per 1000 people. If you're implying that having more people wouldn't increase the total number of murders then you're an idiot. It's also not relevant to his argument. More people = more houses needed, it's simple economics you tool.

We already own houses in France, Spain and San Francisco so yeah could leave anytime. Know anyone who'd like a house in Mayfair and/or Somerset?

I'm afraid it's not the case that we have too many people. In fact, only 6.8% of the UK is actually built on and now woodland is calculated to cover 12.7% of the UK, the highest proportion since 1924 when records began.

I'm sure those in the respected countries love you having property there that restricts their access to housing.

The one where I move everyone into gulags?

So it is actually you who is causing the housing crisis by owning multiple houses? Unless you are renting them out. Maybe a solution to the housing problem would be to prevent people owning second homes that are vacant for all but two weeks of the year?

As for who would like a house in Mayfair or Somerset - yes - thousands! By your own admission.