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I can Solve the so called housing crisis easily

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Original post by DMcGovern
No. Is that one of them? No. The one where you urbanise everyone and the car parks one.

Go on, go on! :biggrin:


Oh yeah, I want to build loads of skyscrapers and convert the countryside into a big car park for ease.
Original post by TheDefiniteArticle
Oh yeah, I want to build loads of skyscrapers and convert the countryside into a big car park for ease.


@MeYou2Night
Original post by TheDefiniteArticle
Oh yeah, I want to build loads of skyscrapers and convert the countryside into a big car park for ease.


Oh dear. Another child left behind.
Original post by MeYou2Night
Same with my parents who have paid millions and millions of pounds in tax.


That clearly had to be said. 'paid a lot of taxes' wouldn't have sufficed.
Original post by TitanicTeutonicPhil
That clearly had to be said. 'paid a lot of taxes' wouldn't have sufficed.


Well they have...
Original post by DMcGovern
The private sector caused this housing crisis. It is deliberately not producing houses at a reasonable rate in order to push up prices exponentially, which is the exact effect it's had.


The private sector is heavily constrained in the amount of new homes it can construct by the state via control of the planning system. I haven't seen anything to suggest that there is a cartel operating between various housing developers.
Original post by TitanicTeutonicPhil
Yep, and you're a pathetic show-off for having to let everyone in an online forum know that :smile:


Ah the ugly face of jealousy.
Original post by MeYou2Night
Ah the ugly face of jealousy.


Ah, the post of someone with a major inferiority complex who has to stress how much money his parents have.

Thanks, I am good, I am already more successful than you will ever be, that's enough for me, I don't need rich parents.
Original post by MeYou2Night
Yeah but capitialism let the idea and company flourish, giving them their job.

You could live, you just couldn't have "nice things", which obviously you deem more important than what you believe in. Typical Champagne socialist aren't you?


Socialism is literally just workers owning and running the company democratically? In a Socialist or Communist society, everyone still has to give in to society to take from it, therefore people would have to be innovative. And the produce of the worker’s labour would be first spread out according to need, then according to how hard you work. Then, we would be a more productive society. Socialism/Communism could still let ideas flourish, you just don’t know what Communism nor Socialism is.
Original post by frankielogue
Socialism is literally just workers owning and running the company democratically? In a Socialist or Communist society, everyone still has to give in to society to take from it, therefore people would have to be innovative. And the produce of the worker’s labour would be first spread out according to need, then according to how hard you work. Then, we would be a more productive society. Socialism/Communism could still let ideas flourish, you just don’t know what Communism nor Socialism is.


Go and live in North Korea.
Original post by MeYou2Night
Go and live in North Korea.


They follow the Juche ideology you idiot.
Communism is a stateless, classless, and moneyless society.
Moneyless meaning absence of currency.
North Korea is more of a State Capitalist, Juche ideology actually.
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Original post by Nowen
Lol okay.
How is this anything but a supply side issue?
Of course increase in population will extend the demand curve for housing, but the crisis is not occurring due to that.
To put it plainly building companies are not meeting demand perhaps due to wanting to keep prices high, or due to the fact that we don't have as many skilled labourers as we previously had.

Your argument is what you labelled me, stupid.


There's a lesser increase in supply than there is in demand. I can't be bothered to get facts from the Internet but last year a record number of homes were built, but demand for them was at a record high. There's only so much you can do to supply adequate quality housing at a decent rate without resorting to 1970s tower blocks (which are ****ing awful, believe me.)
Or alternatively, build more nationalized, reliable and faster transport links enabling population to spread out more, and making currently undeveloped and unused lands outside of cities attractive investment for developers as well as state be developed into more modern and vertical houses enabling better use of space.
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Original post by Tahret
Get your tinfoil hat...



Tinfoil hat is out in force...



It's about having infrastructure around houses as well - anyone could build a house in the middle of a field in the Midlands but it wouldn't have amenities near it so no-one would want to live there. What you omit from your argument is that we are the most densely populated country in the EU, and that the demand for homes in the UK is of a greater quality than those in other EU countries.


Actually it's true the Tories don't really want to upset their rich land owners if people are going to end up on the streets they don't care. This explains why there are so many homeless people on the streets especially men. House prices are so expensive and even people who are on benefits have to pay for their rent.
Even the UN has started investigating Tory austerity policy
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Well it seems to be the prevailing opinion on this thread we should just let prices continue to rise and have people on the street


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That’s what I thought you cuck. Stop making arguments you know nothing about.
Original post by frankielogue
They follow the Juche ideology you idiot.
Communism is a stateless, classless, and moneyless society.
Moneyless meaning absence of currency.
North Korea is more of a State Capitalist, Juche ideology actually.


Communism always leads to Authoritarianism

North Korea is just the final phase of that

Russia
Spain
China
Cambodia
Venezuela
Cuba
Zimbabwe
etcetcetc

it has failed time and time again, I can tell you that as a guy with family who lived through it in Poland.
Original post by remiremi
Communism always leads to Authoritarianism

North Korea is just the final phase of that

Russia
Spain
China
Cambodia
Venezuela
Cuba
Zimbabwe
etcetcetc

it has failed time and time again, I can tell you that as a guy with family who lived through it in Poland.


Sorry to say that is State Capitalism :smile:
Communism can’t lead to authoritarianism because Communism is literally an anarchist society, with no state, classes or currency.
Now have any of those countries achieved just one of those? I think not.
The USSR was ~fairly~ close to Socialism under Lenin but then he died and Stalin came and ****ed it up.
Socialism nor Communism has never been tried, so don’t try n say that something that hasn’t been tried has failed :smile:
Original post by frankielogue
Sorry to say that is State Capitalism :smile:
Communism can’t lead to authoritarianism because Communism is literally an anarchist society, with no state, classes or currency.
Now have any of those countries achieved just one of those? I think not.
The USSR was ~fairly~ close to Socialism under Lenin but then he died and Stalin came and ****ed it up.
Socialism nor Communism has never been tried, so don’t try n say that something that hasn’t been tried has failed :smile:


Oh yea sorry

We just have to try your special brand of Communism that has never been tried

If it turns out like all the rest, we can always try again xD


Original post by frankielogue

anarchist society, with no state, classes or currency.


You want an example of an Anarchist society? there is none, because it's all hippy daydreaming. You think a world without Borders, a police force, laws are a good thing? xD

I'm sure ISIS and Putin would love that, they would crush your little hippy commune within a day.
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Original post by remiremi
Oh yea sorry

We just have to try your special brand of Communism that has never been tried

If it turns out like all the rest, we can always try again xD




You want an example of an Anarchist society? there is none, because it's all hippy daydreaming. You think a world without Borders, a police force, laws are a good thing? xD

I'm sure ISIS and Putin would love that, they would crush your little hippy commune within a day.


Well of course it’s utopian - Communism is a utopian ideology. My “special brand” of Communism is actual communism. I think that is the end goal of humanity - for the moment I want true Socialism.

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