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[PETITION] Allow loud call for prayer in UK mosques

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Why does your freedom matter more than mine? What if I don't want to hear your message.
Original post by Trapz99
If you really want to do that, then I guess you should have that right to choose to do so.


Fair enough, at least you are not a hypocrite like many on here, I respect that.

But next question, what if I don't want to hear any of you lot, not the Christian not the Muslim (not the atheist for that matter)?

Should one not respect my wishes for being left in peace?
Original post by inhuman
Fair enough, at least you are not a hypocrite like many on here, I respect that.

But next question, what if I don't want to hear any of you lot, not the Christian not the Muslim (not the atheist for that matter)?

Should one not respect my wishes for being left in peace?

If you're in a public place, then you can leave if you don't want to hear it. If I come knocking on your door to talk about Jesus then you can shut the door.

There are often Muslim preachers on my high street spreading their religion and I don't want to hear that but I do think they should have the right to say that, so I'll deal with it.
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Original post by Trapz99
If you're in a public place, then you can leave if you don't want to hear it. If I come knocking on your door to talk about Jesus then you can shut the door.

There are often Muslim preachers on my high street spreading their religion and I don't want to hear that but I do think they should have the right to say that, so I'll deal with it.


Interesting view.

Why do you think you have the right to bother people in the public space just because it is a space that doesn't belong to them?
Original post by inhuman
Interesting view.

Why do you think you have the right to bother people in the public space just because it is a space that doesn't belong to them?


It's freedom of speech.
Original post by Trapz99
It's freedom of speech.

No it's not.

Freedom of speech is writing a political or opinionated article say, and not have to fear to be imprisoned or attacked or whatever for it. People can choose to read it or not.

In public I can't really choose that, I could leave, but why should I have to leave, why don't you leave and do your thing in your private place?

At least how I see it. I must admit in this case it is very much probable to hold different views. You have the freedom to say what you want. You don't have the freedom to bother people as you want. Of course people, as you just did, will use "muh but freedom of speech" to get away with doing exactly that. But I am of the opinion that should not be allowed.
Original post by inhuman
No it's not.

Freedom of speech is writing a political or opinionated article say, and not have to fear to be imprisoned or attacked or whatever for it. People can choose to read it or not.

In public I can't really choose that, I could leave, but why should I have to leave, why don't you leave and do your thing in your private place?

At least how I see it. I must admit in this case it is very much probable to hold different views. You have the freedom to say what you want. You don't have the freedom to bother people as you want. Of course people, as you just did, will use "muh but freedom of speech" to get away with doing exactly that. But I am of the opinion that should not be allowed.


Ok, lets just agree to disagree.
Of course Birmingham and East London have contributed to the majority of the signatures LMAO
Why? What do you get out of this? People who go to the mosque will do so in a routine fashion, they don't need the whole neighbourhood being disturbed by the call and having to listen to it. We'd inevitably have a faction determined to put a stop to it all the same.
No. And I'm a socialist.
Original post by inhuman
:biggrin:

Not your thing?


Erm aren't you a girl?

Because Hanwar is a girl
Original post by Vividly clear
Erm aren't you a girl?

Because Hanwar is a girl


No, I am a guy. I just didn't know the user was a girl. Makes my offer all the better but I have given up on her replying.
Original post by BaconandSauce
If Egypt is the example we have of how Muslims treat 'others' then they are just as bad and perhaps even worse than Saudi.


That really isn't true. There are god-awful incidents, true, but generally speaking, specially in cities, there is no discrimination whatsoever and they get along just fine.
Original post by inhuman
http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21705365-violence-only-one-problems-faced-christians-egypt-crimes-and-no

For real brah?

"a teacher in Minya who filmed his students mocking the jihadists of Islamic State was convicted in court of blasphemy and sentenced to three years in prison."

Anti-ISIS = prison in Egypt. Tell me again how ISIS does not represent Islam. That whole religion is a complete joke. And the west is getting more and more tired of its excuses.


Are you really suggesting that Egypt supports ISIS? Al-Sisi's whole presidency bid is based on fighting ISIS and their legions in Egypt.
Look at this for example: http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2015/04/14/giza-school-burns-alleged-islamist-books/
Original post by oShahpo
Are you really suggesting that Egypt supports ISIS? Al-Sisi's whole presidency bid is based on fighting ISIS and their legions in Egypt.
Look at this for example: http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2015/04/14/giza-school-burns-alleged-islamist-books/


No? Why are you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say.

I just showed you a country other than Saudi Arabia where being Christian is difficult. There are many articles even describing a slow exodus of Christians from the Middle East.
lol, i'm muslim and the first thing i thought was : what utter BS

DON'T YOU GET IT - you do not live in a muslim country!
Original post by HAnwar
That would be awesome.

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it would be terrible

it would further polarize an already tense situation : remember, the UK is not divided into "Muslim areas" and "non-Muslim areas"

we should not further stoke communities one against the other : and the call to prayer is, in many ways, a claim for ownership of a territory , by "ruling the sound waves"

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Nah we're alright.

Why don't you start allowing churches in Saudi Arabia instead? #willneverhappen


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It's almost as if the OP wants the terrorists to win.
Original post by Iridocyclitis
I agree - it shows we are a tolerant country which welcomes multiculturalism and promotes freedom of religion.


No, it would show that we are having multiculturalism forced upon us against our will. Because incase you haven't noticed, the overwhelming majority of people in this thread are strongly opposed to the petition's demands and it's highly likely the majority of the wider British public would also be opposed.

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