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Muslim family kicked off plane in London after passenger complains

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/23/muslim-siblings-hauled-of-easyjet-flight-after-claims-they-were/

They were kicked off the plane at Stansted airport because a passenger thought that they were writing a text message in Arabic, which later turned out to be false.

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unfortunate consequence of UK being on heightend terror alert in relation to islamist extremism.
please follow all instructions on planes to turn off mobile or electronic devices
Islamaphobia is on the rise, people becoming more ignorant and right wing, prejudice and profiling increasing, anti-Muslim programs e.g. Prevent are being introduced...

Won't be long until Muslims will be forced to wear bright yellow cresent moons stitched into their clothes by the looks of it...
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It's sad when people allow themselves to be ruled by irrational fear.
Original post by Dez
It's sad when people allow themselves to be ruled by irrational fear.


How is it irrational?

We're living in a real fear of terrorism... sure the passengers got it wrong in this case, but that doesn't mean it's an "irrational" fear.
Original post by Zamestaneh
Islamaphobia is on the rise, people becoming more ignorant and right wing, prejudice and profiling increasing, anti-Muslim programs e.g. Prevent are being introduced...

Won't be long until Muslims will be forced to wear bright yellow cresent moons stitched into their clothes by the looks of it...

muslims already wear visible hijabs, burkahs/nikabs or keep long beards as a result of islamic edicts
Passenger should be fined for time wasting
Original post by Zamestaneh
Islamaphobia is on the rise, people becoming more ignorant and right wing, prejudice and profiling increasing, anti-Muslim programs e.g. Prevent are being introduced...



concern about terrorism from within the islamic community is at all time high and this does feed into a existing xenophobic attitude toward groups 'different' to the norm. the only way this sort of distrust will be dealt with in long term ( in the large part not the fringe racism that has always existed) is to address and reduce the prevalence of islamist influence and therefore terrorism from within islamic communities
Original post by Reformed
muslims already wear visible hijabs, burkahs/nikabs or keep long beards as a result of islamic edicts


Much like we have Muslims who wear thawbs, hijabs and Western clothes, similarly the Jews had those who wore distinctive clothing (e.g. hats, skullcaps), kept long curly sideburns, covered their hair, and others wearing normal clothes, so it doesn't matter that Muslims are easily identifiable tbh.
Original post by SuperHuman98
Passenger should be fined for time wasting


:lol:

That will only lead to people avoiding coming forward to complain about genuine cases of Islamism. An apology is sufficient.
Original post by Zamestaneh
Much like we have Muslims who wear thawbs, hijabs and Western clothes, similarly the Jews had those who wore distinctive clothing (e.g. hats, skullcaps), kept long curly sideburns, covered their hair, and others wearing normal clothes, so it doesn't matter that Muslims are easily identifiable tbh.

yes that was my point, that many of young generation muslims deliberatly make visible statement of their religion already in their dress. as do jews sikhs, etc - the difference is though that other faith groups are not , currently anyway , linked to current terrorist threat anxiety
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Original post by Dodgypirate
How is it irrational?

We're living in a real fear of terrorism... sure the passengers got it wrong in this case, but that doesn't mean it's an "irrational" fear.


The chances of any sort of plane accident are remote. The chances of being a victim of a terrorist attack are even more remote. You're hundreds, perhaps thousands of times more likely to be killed in a car crash going to the airport, yet nobody calls 999 if they see someone being tailgated on the M25. The passengers totally overreacted, and that's a fact.
Original post by Ladbants
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/23/muslim-siblings-hauled-of-easyjet-flight-after-claims-they-were/

They were kicked off the plane at Stansted airport because a passenger thought that they were writing a text message in Arabic, which later turned out to be false.


Consequences of the media and ignorance in society, so people can't even text in their own language now?
haters will say the muslims had grenades in their bag
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They were taken off and questioned because someone reported that they were looking at illegal isis material on their phone. The police questioned them and then allowed them back on the plane.

If someone had reported a passenger was looking at illegal child porn on their phone you would expect the exact same response.

Seems like an entirely reasonable reaction by the airline and police.*
(edited 7 years ago)
The people who made up the allegation about the Muslim family and had them kicked off should be ashamed of themselves. They're doing nothing to lower what is already a high tension between Islam and other religions/ the west
Original post by Dez
The chances of any sort of plane accident are remote. The chances of being a victim of a terrorist attack are even more remote. You're hundreds, perhaps thousands of times more likely to be killed in a car crash going to the airport, yet nobody calls 999 if they see someone being tailgated on the M25. The passengers totally overreacted, and that's a fact.


It was only a reaction because it was discovered that the passengers weren't doing anything wrong at all.

You fail to observe both sides of this scenario.

Are you going to call my fear of horses "irrational" because 1 in 1,000,000 people get kicked by horses? No. The reason I'm petrified of them is because I was seriously hurt by one in the past. I know horses are generally harmless and only kick out for certain reasons, but there's still a danger.

This is the same reasoning.

I'm on a plane and I see something that catches my attention. In my mind, I believe that it is terrorism-related, and instead of keeping my mouth shut, I speak out.

If I'm proven wrong I will apologise, of course.

It's unfortunate that in this case the accuser was totally wrong, but we can't call them "evil" or "Islamophobic".

This could easily turn into another Rotherham...


You might want to read this comment too.

Original post by Reue
They were taken off and questioned because someone reported that they were looking at illegal isis material on their phone. The police questioned them and then allowed them back on the plane.If someone had reported a passenger was looking at illegal child porn on their phone you would expect the exact same response.Seems like an entirely reasonable reaction by the airline and police.*
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by Reue
They were taken off and questioned because someone reported that they were looking at illegal isis material on their phone. The police questioned them and then allowed them back on the plane.

If someone had reported a passenger was looking at illegal child porn on their phone you would expect the exact same response.

Seems like an entirely reasonable reaction by the airline and police.*


And the passenger who raised the alarm, let's not forget that.
Original post by Reformed
yes that was my point, that many of young generation muslims deliberatly make visible statement of their religion already in their dress. as do jews sikhs, etc - the difference is though that other faith groups are not , currently anyway , linked to current terrorist threat anxiety


Whether the perceived threat is actually real or not, the sentiment is the same irregardless i.e. even if the Jews posed no real threat to the non-Jewish Europeans, they were still perceived to be one, and therefore the bigotry and fear is of equal value.
Original post by Zamestaneh
Because Islamaphobia and making Muslims feel ostracised doesn't cause people to develop hatred for the West? Your post ignores the fundamental causes of terrorism which are:

- Political instability (which is often a result of the past actions of Western nations).
- Social instability (which is often the result of the past actions of Western nations).
- Economic instability (which is often the result of the past actions of Western nations).

Little do you realise that the problems of the Middle East - the dictators, the terrorists etc - have all been direct and indirect consequences of Western actions in the region over this last 100 years. If you wish to argue against that, I suggest you read a history book and look into how much the West has done to create the unstable mess that constitutes the M.East.

The way to end terrorism is to stop Western governments from constantly acting as the puppet master for affairs in the Middle East and to attempt to economically repair the region.


So you're telling me that if the West had not "interfered" with the M.East, it would be paradise on Earth? :lol:

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