Debunking "Ethnic minorities face 'entrenched' racial inequality"

Where is your proof?

I outlined it above.

Of course it does not constitute "proof" as such, but it is more than enough in order for you to now having to come up with a more reasonable argument if you disagree.

No proof so I can disregard it. Its not up to me to do your work for you.

So you are saying if 3 graduates, one black, one white Asian all got the same grade in the same subject from similar universities, they should all have the same potential for earning the same wages?

I gave a very plausible line of reasoning why the whole approach to racial inequality is complete bs.

I never saw your proof for why it is accurate. So I guess I can disregard all of your useless posts, too.

Works for me.

It would be nice if you started holding yourself to the same standards as you hold others.

Three graduates who all possess the same qualifications should have an equal chance of getting the same job if they're applying for the same position. If, however, the black or Asian candidate doesn't receive a job even though they have the same qualifications then maybe then we can begin to question systemic racism. However, you have know proof to prove any sort of conspiracy here in Britain and therefore you shouldn't blame the inequalities on institutional racism when there's no evidence to suggest it.

You seem to be satisfied with simple things..

I am.

Which means I will not engage with trolls Which you are, as someone else also pointed out, you don't hold yourself accountable to the same standards and instead reply with what you think are insults. I will not waste my time with arrogant muppets.

You're trying to make parallels which don't exist, especially when you have ignored cogent evidence I provided in my original post to a proclaim an unfounded adherence to the victim narrative.

Yes, there is a prejudicial bias which exists in many aspects of Britain's employment sectors, but if we want to tackle premature bias then perhaps we should look at banning name, ethnicity and gender on applications for employment so interviewers have the opportunity to meet that person as oppose to precluding a person's person without meeting them.

However, the racial discrimination which exists does not mitigate or nullify the underperformance of black students in an academic environment. In the US for instance, Asians are the highest earners because they are also the highest achievers. Blacks, however, are the lowest earners because they are the lowest achievers. Not once in my original argument did I dismiss the existence of racism, however to proclaim that racial disparities in employment is a result of institutional racism does not correlate with systemic evidence with regard to academic attainment.

You're trying to make parallels which don't exist, especially when you have ignored cogent evidence I provided in my original post to a proclaim an unfounded adherence to the victim narrative.

Yes, there is a prejudicial bias which exists in many aspects of Britain's employment sectors, but if we want to tackle premature bias then perhaps we should look at banning name, ethnicity and gender on applications for employment so interviewers have the opportunity to meet that person as oppose to precluding a person's person without meeting them.

However, the racial discrimination which exists does not mitigate or nullify the underperformance of black students in an academic environment. In the US for instance, Asians are the highest earners because they are also the highest achievers. Blacks, however, are the lowest earners because they are the lowest achievers. Not once in my original argument did I dismiss the existence of racism, however to proclaim that racial disparities in employment is a result of institutional racism does not correlate with systemic evidence with regard to academic attainment.

You seemed to have debunked yourself. Thanks

I don't need to prove anything, its those doing the debunking that have to provide the proof, if you can't understand that, you should not be on this thread.

No, I haven't. I didn't once say racism didn't exist, however I did say that racism wasn't the most pertinent factor contributing to the inhibition of black prosperity.

Stop being so immature.

What do you think racism is if not discriminating against people in all spheres of life? Why do you think work is different from all other areas where discrimination occurs? Again, where is your proof?

In the exact same way, you haven't backed up your statement that the only reason why minorities face lower salaries is because they face discrimination at work. You don't seem to have an adequate understanding of the burden of proof either. But thanks for amusing me with your contrarianism, it does make this thread more interesting to read.

Three graduates who all possess the same qualifications should have an equal chance of getting the same job if they're applying for the same position. If, however, the black or Asian candidate doesn't receive a job even though they have the same qualifications then maybe then we can begin to question systemic racism. However, you have know proof to prove any sort of conspiracy here in Britain and therefore you shouldn't blame the inequalities on institutional racism when there's no evidence to suggest it.

Why are the people who always talk about how great and wonderful Asians are doing are never Asians themselves ?

But racism is very hard to prove.

Why ?

1) White people control the truthYet they run the BBC, CNN, the New York Times, Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge. They write most of the Hollywood films and Wikipedia articles. They own twitter, face-book. They own TSR. English-speaking white men own and run nearly all the main bits of the Vast Talking Machine.

So therefore the white POV is often taken as the truth is very difficult to question it.

2) Their minds are bought and paid for.

Whites benefit from racism. This causes them to turn a blind eye.

3) Prejudice is not logical.

That makes it hard to disprove, logically. It can be confirmed by facts (one black robber) but never disproved (a hundred black people who do not rob).

It works in a part of the brain that deals with feeling, not thought. So:

3) Racism is proved personally. Not intellectually

Most people believe in racism not because they read it in a book, or read some data or survey but because they experienced it first-hand. For blacks the experience is direct. For whites, it comes through seeing family, friends or lovers subjected to racism – but even then they might still discount it for one or more of the reasons above.