The Arsenal Thread XXIV

Maybe can't complain but are you happy with the business? Seems like Wenger has gone and bought for positions that everyone was crying out for.

I hope your second part is right - because when he signed, your right he had so much potential, and looked like a huge talent at southampton.

Loans seem to make/break players, so lets see over this year

You mean the same Chambers who dispite being here for 2 years has already fallen bellow holding in the pecking order?

The chambers who has been loaned out to a bottom half sign because he has failed to establish himself a place in the team?

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I like chambers, and I was really excited when he signed, but these days I cant see a future for him at arsenal. I honestly cant remember a game where he played to a level that impressed..

People were calling for wengers head after the liverpool game.. We were angry at the in-experianced CB partnership, but the anger was not at them, but at the fact that we were in a position where they were our only choice..

Since then holding has played two games with a decent partner, and looked pretty good in both. (two games which you would have expected chambers to start during the summer)

Maybe you have seen something I have not? If so, feel free to point out games where chambers has shown his quality (since joining), and prove me wrong.. but personally I think he will hang around for a bit before being shipped off to a lower table side more fitting with his level.

as an arsenal fan - yeah, pretty happy.

I mean, we are the club who were ok with being the only side in english football not to buy an outfield player last summer. Fans have been used to years and years of the club not spending, so its hard not to be happy at an 85mil spend this summer, investing in all the areas that we wanted to spend.

Reckon any fan would have bit your hand off for a decent CB and CM alone this summer, let alone the rest.

9/10 summer for me as it stands (ofcourse who knows how the players will perform) - only thing that stops it being a 10, is that the striker is not (yet) really top class, so we have to wait and see how he will turn out.

To be honest with you, it's not the signings or positions that Arsenal fans are a little annoyed at, it is the timing.

Would be have been beaten 3 - 4 by Liverpool if we had an experience CB? Would we have had enough to score an extra goal and beat the Champions if we had a recognised striker who scored 17 goals and got 8 assists last season?

If we had gotten these signings near the start of the transfer window, given the players time to gel before the Liverpool game I honestly think we would be in the same position as Man U Man City and Chelsea right now

It's not always easy to sign players early though. Some clubs will just refuse to deal.

You're right it isn't easy, but big clubs get it done.

Look at the business Man U and Man City have done. They did it early and people in. The only ones that took a while were ones like Man City and the GK situations because of Joe Hart, and Pogba for Man United.

I think that if our club is as rich as people say then we should see the benefits of the money and conduct ourselves like a big club and bully little ones into giving us their gems.

You're right it isn't easy, but big clubs get it done.

Look at the business Man U and Man City have done. They did it early and people in. The only ones that took a while were ones like Man City and the GK situations because of Joe Hart, and Pogba for Man United.

I think that if our club is as rich as people say then we should see the benefits of the money and conduct ourselves like a big club and bully little ones into giving us their gems.

But then you have to be willing to throw silly money at players whether to the selling club, the agents or wages to the player.

I wouldn't be surprised if often the players themselves delay a little as they also want to see what other clubs are willing to come in for them.

But then you have to be willing to throw silly money at players whether to the selling club, the agents or wages to the player.

As I said, just throw the money! Honestly we have a club season ticket and it cost more then twice what other season tickets costs! We pay the highest prices for mediocrity and static behaviour in the market place.

Yeah I can see some players doing that but only if the initial offer from the first club isn't good enough.

In an age when Walcott is getting paid more than 100K a weeks surely we can justify shelling a lot of cash on Mustafi to get him done early

I think the main issue is more like buying a house if there is a chain involved. United got all our deals through early other than Pogba becuase that was the only one with a chain, obviously the Higuain deal was complicating things. Clubs are going to hold players until they have their replacement lined up and fees aren't going to be finalised until the fees with that are sorted. A lot of the time the selling club are hoping to hold the player and don't line up a plan B until its clear they are going to have to sell. Not much you can do, but clearly the clubs getting the business done early are scoping out those deals way before the window opens. Could blame Wenger somewhat there but Xhaka is arguably the clubs headline signing and he wasn't exactly last minute.

Just throwing money is such a simplistic notion as it does not always work .Look at the herrera situation with bilbao and united. Look at the lacazette situation in this window as well. Plus, the euros probably ****ed everything up with club/ agents refusing to do deals early in hope that performance can shift the price northerly.

The chambers who has been loaned out to a bottom half sign because he has failed to establish himself a place in the team?

The counter argument is that if you do a deal early enough then clubs have all summer with the cash to take their time with replacements? Dortmund managed to sign plenty of players at the start of the summer tbh.

Just ****ing lol at the fans who were thinking Wilshere would start at Juventus and now he's going to Bournemouth

Sums up his whole career really.