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Original post by citibankrec
surrey? lool it's like 4th in the rankings so if anything its overrated


lol oh no I don't think its that good to be 4th place but I think it could replace one of the RG unis.
Original post by bj1

I think the most overrated university, in the universe, has to be UCL.
It even overrates itself by having tonnes of vacancies this year - but doesn't make them available on clearing, only adjustment. Why, except for their own ego, they have this policy I don't know - the extraordinarily rude woman on their 'admissions hotline' couldn't give me any valid reason except for 'because it's UCL', despite me clearly meeting the offer for one of their courses. People call Oxbridge elitist - they don't know about UCL!
Shows how it has zero academic substance whatsoever and is simply an 'institution' with a nice building and 3 letters and people have the illusion that by simply having those 3 letters on their CV, will instantly give them a 'City' job, despite the appalling rent and student satisfaction situation currently.
I wish I had done more research before making them my insurance choice.


Your answer reeks of pent up angst about not having got in.

This entire thread reeks of it, in fact. On TSR, the most overrated uni will be the uni that rejected the user and the most underrated will be the uni they're at :tongue:
Original post by tanyapotter
I exist too!!


(I think I remember you from the Oxford thread...? Idk tho, that was nearly a year ago)
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Original post by theonetruequeen
Your answer reeks of pent up angst about not having got in.

This entire thread reeks of it, in fact. On TSR, the most overrated uni will be the uni that rejected the user and the most underrated will be the uni they're at :tongue:

:tongue:

True :colondollar: - to some extent - I'd rather not dwell on it but I'd like to reiterate that it's because their adjustment and no clearing policy (despite meeting the grades) is what really got on my nerves... Let's just leave it there.

I always wondered why Warwick got so much hate on TSR in general lately than it probably deserves, I'm sure your theory will be correct.
Original post by bj1
:tongue:

True :colondollar: - to some extent - I'd rather not dwell on it but I'd like to reiterate that it's because their adjustment and no clearing policy (despite meeting the grades) is what really got on my nerves... Let's just leave it there.

I always wondered why Warwick got so much hate on TSR in general lately than it probably deserves, I'm sure your theory will be correct.


From what I recall, don't a lot of other universities like St Andrews and Bath have the same policy as UCL?

True, lol I didn't even know UCL as a university existed until last June so I won't say it's overrated. In India (where I'm from) everyone told me to apply to Oxford/Cambridge, Imperial, Warwick, Manchester and Edinburgh. That's literally the extent of most people's knowledge, along with LSE and King's for non-STEM. Even now they mishear me and think I'm going to UCLA in the US and not UCL. In fact, when I visited London last year, if our hotel had not been at Euston, I may never be a UCL student today. Which is surprising considering the father of my nation and the man who wrote the national anthem both studied at UCL :tongue:

but yeah, TSR is not really a good measure of where which university stands. I personally feel it should be up to each student to decide, for example I'm not really cut out for the Imperial vibe and more importantly their civil engineering course doesn't focus enough on transport, something I want to specialise in, but that doesn't mean it's a bad university. I'm not fond of campus towns in the middle of nowhere but that doesn't mean Bath is terrible, if you know what I mean. So you can't go "X uni is better than Y uni for ABC subject" really. It goes deeper than that.
Original post by theonetruequeen
From what I recall, don't a lot of other universities like St Andrews and Bath have the same policy as UCL?


Dunno about Bath but St Andrews doesn't have places in clearing or adjustment (and hasn't done so far years).
Original post by lucabrasi98
Middlesex - Mostly comprised of turkish people, roadmen or people from poorer backgrounds. Although one of my old maths teachers went there and he is among the smartest people I've ever met.

Kings - full of people who couldn't get into UCL.

UCL - 2 categories. One is the people doing humanities who couldn't go to unis outside of London. Either from their own will or (most likely) from their parents. Another is the people doing STEM who couldn't get into Imperial.

Imperial - Genuine world class university.

Greenwich - also full of people whose parents were strict and didn't allow them to go to unis outside of London. Similar to Kings except in this case they aren't as high achieving. (happened to about 5 people from my school).

Queen marys - It's located in mile end. Isn't even rated that highly in the first place. That being said, their dentistry department is really good.

LSE - overrated isn't the correct term. Purely as a place to learn and get opportunities, it's as great as advertised. It's only criticized because it's one of the worst in the U.K socially.

Outside of London: Exeter is overrated. Birmingham, Manchester, Edinburgh and Cardiff are underrated.


super accurate post, can approve
Original post by Vividly clear
The league tables don't lie
Are lancaster and loughborough also better than UCL?
Original post by Vividly clear
LOL, mate don't deceive yourself because you were two UMS points of your KCL offer and they rejected you but accepted me, NONE of those universities mentioned above, Manchester, Cardiff, Birmingham can hold a candle towards KCL.



Jesus christ. I can't tell what's more hilarious. The fact that my guess about you being a butthurt Kings applicant was actually true. Or that you think KCL is better than Manchester, Cardiff or Birmingham. Kings doesn't even offer half the courses they do.

Anyway there's no use continuing here. I see why you've been sucking off kings and giving it unwarranted praise now. Good lord

Original post by alow
Keep telling yourself that.
I don't think he knows what hes talking about lol. Nearly everyone in the thread have disagreed with him but he wants to keep deluding himself. I think he's white knighting for KCL because he missed his UCL offer and has to go there instead. Now he's going at LSE despite it being better at KCL at literally every course it has to offer lol
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Original post by lucabrasi98
Are lancaster and loughborough also better than UCL?




I use International league tables not National league tables that use things like student satisfaction and Coursework feedback to judge, and international league tables prove that KCL, is far superior to all 3 of those Universities.

Original post by lucabrasi98

Jesus christ. I can't tell what's more hilarious. The fact that my guess about you being a butthurt Kings applicant was actually true. Or that you think KCL is better than Manchester, Cardiff or Birmingham. Kings doesn't even offer half the courses they do.

You see how your argument fails, you just said that these 3 Uni's are better than KCL because they don't offer the courses but then you said LSE is better than KCL, even though they offer half the courses.And FYI, KCL is miles ahead of any of those Universities, especially a trash Universities Cardiff LMAO.
Original post by lucabrasi98


Anyway there's no use continuing here. I see why you've been sucking off kings and giving it unwarranted praise now. Good lord

I don't think he knows what hes talking about lol. Nearly everyone in the thread have disagreed with him but he wants to keep deluding himself. I think he's white knighting for KCL because he missed his UCL offer and has to go there instead. Now he's going at LSE despite it being better at KCL at literally every course it has to offer lol


Well I did get an offer from UCL but it was for a weak course, they were actually my insurance and I have nothing against the school, yes I agree it's more prestigious than King's but it's still overrated and so is LSE.

Just because LSE offer like 3 A*A*A* courses doesn't mean they are better than King's college London.
Original post by Vividly clear
.And FYI, KCL is miles ahead of any of those Universities, especially a trash Universities Cardiff LMAO.

Just because LSE offer like 3 A*A*A* courses doesn't mean they are better than King's college London.


I disagree with Cardiff too. That's way too far (and a bit insulting). But there's about 20 unis I'd take over KCL. Manchester and Birmingham definitely included. I genuinely think you're the only one here who thinks KCL is "miles ahead" of them. And I'm assuming you only think that because you have an offer from there.

Ironically, with KCL and UCL it isn't even the people who attend the unis that big them up. The majority of them will acknowledge that while they're good unis, they aren't what the internet and papers make them out to be. Especially for STEM subjects at UCL. It's the aspiring students who haven't yet experienced life attending there who think those unis are better than they really are. I'd advise you to revisit this thread in about 3 months time and see if your opinions have changed.

Lastly, no one on TSR will take you seriously if you keep comparing KCL to LSE. Please just drop it to save further embarrassment.

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Original post by harambesrevenge
I disagree with Cardiff too. That's way too far (and a bit insulting). But there's about 20 unis I'd take over KCL. Manchester and Birmingham definitely included. I genuinely think you're the only one here who thinks KCL is "miles ahead" of them. And I'm assuming you only think that because you have an offer from there.

Ironically, with KCL and UCL it isn't even the people who attend the unis that big them up. The majority of them will acknowledge that while they're good unis, they aren't what the internet and papers make them out to be. Especially for STEM subjects at UCL. It's the aspiring students who haven't yet experienced life attending there who **** them off. I'd advise you to revisit this thread in about 3 months time and see if your opinions have changed.

Lastly, no one on TSR will take you seriously if you keep comparing KCL to LSE. Please just drop it to save further embarrassment.

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Oh please save it.

KCL is miles and miles ahead of Cardiff University. It is by far an Insult to compare a golden triangle to some lower RG uni in Wales, that has only Medicine and Law as their good courses.

Just check out the International league tables, there is a reason why KCL is ranked 19th in the world and far far ahead of Manchester and Birmingham, i doubt that Cardiff even make the top 100.

And Yes KCL is comparable with LSE, and even people who don't attend the Uni will tell you the same thing
I am biased since I will be going there but I think Loughborough is underrated in terms of when talking to people about Universities as they think it is just about sport. In terms of league tables they are definitely overrated (4th is ridiculous). I'd say they can get into the teens in terms of rankings and definitely excel in some regards but if I was offered a place in some of the universities they supposedly beat I would choose them over Loughborough xD.
Also for Overrated I'd say Queens University Belfast. They seem to be living of past glories now and while they have some good departments they don't live up to a lot of their hype, which becomes quite obvious when their main thing is saying they are part of the Russell Group.
how about the most well-rated universities?
Original post by Vividly clear


Just check out the International league tables, there is a reason why KCL is ranked 19th in the world and far far ahead of Manchester and Birmingham, i doubt that Cardiff even make the top 100.



Is that far ahead to you? Or "miles ahead" as you've nicely put it?

Surely if Manchester is bad then by your logic KCL is bad too? Plus. given algorithm the site uses rank unis the difference is insignificant. Just the fact that KCL has "London" in its name will make its reputation fly up. Hence pushing it up places. That's despite reputation having nothing to do with uni experience. You can't even say the rep helps with employment either. Birmingham grads have higher employment rates than KCL grads. No idea what Manchester's is though.

The sites methodology states it even awards score for "how seriously a university takes its obligations to society by investing in the local community as well as in charity work and disaster relief". How does that effect your life at the university? There's even an arts and culture catergory for scoring? If you wanted a conclusive argument, you'd need a website that allows you to create your own methodology and scoring system.


That's not to mention the fact that Manchester is colossal in size compared to KCL. Birmingham is also significantly bigger. The fact that they can afford to take in all these people and still provide bigger range of high quality courses also puts them ahead for me. Then there's student life which are obviously better at both Birmingham and Manchester. Lastly, there's accommodation where those 2 unis win again. I don't need to go into how expensive living in London is. But people also overlook the fact that the quality of the accommodations isn't great either.

Original post by Vividly clear
And Yes KCL is comparable with LSE, and even people who don't attend the Uni will tell you the same thing


You should've put that first so I'd know not to bother typing out a reply at all. You might as well edit that quote into your title so people who click this thread know what they're in for. Genuinely can't believe what I've just read
Original post by Vividly clear

And Yes KCL is comparable with LSE, and even people who don't attend the Uni will tell you the same thing


Ok abort thread lads. Claiming KCL is better than Manchester or Birmingham is dumb enough as it is. Especially taking into account student life and accomodation.

But with that quote I think we can safely say that this OP is a troll. No other explanation.
Original post by stereoashhh
Ok abort thread lads. Claiming KCL is better than Manchester or Birmingham is dumb enough as it is. Especially taking into account student life and accomodation.



http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2015#sorting=rank+region=+country=+faculty=+stars=false+search=

KCL = 19th

Manchester = 33rd

Birmingham = 76th



Original post by stereoashhh

But with that quote I think we can safely say that this OP is a troll. No other explanation.




KCL = 19th


LSE = 35th


Typical baseless argument, "oh you're wrong and stupid. I haven't put up a decent argument or presented any facts or stats, but you're wrong and stupid"
Original post by harambesrevenge
I disagree with Cardiff too. That's way too far (and a bit insulting). But there's about 20 unis I'd take over KCL. Manchester and Birmingham definitely included. I genuinely think you're the only one here who thinks KCL is "miles ahead" of them. And I'm assuming you only think that because you have an offer from there.

Ironically, with KCL and UCL it isn't even the people who attend the unis that big them up. The majority of them will acknowledge that while they're good unis, they aren't what the internet and papers make them out to be. Especially for STEM subjects at UCL. It's the aspiring students who haven't yet experienced life attending there who think those unis are better than they really are. I'd advise you to revisit this thread in about 3 months time and see if your opinions have changed.

Lastly, no one on TSR will take you seriously if you keep comparing KCL to LSE. Please just drop it to save further embarrassment.

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Why do you think Birmingham and Manchester are better than Kings?
These threads make me LOL, but would you say medical schools are 'exempt' from this?
Original post by Vividly clear
LOL, mate don't deceive yourself because you were two UMS points of your KCL offer and they rejected you but accepted me, NONE of those universities mentioned above, Manchester, Cardiff, Birmingham can hold a candle towards KCL.

Golden triangle, elite russell group uni, 19th in the world, largest library in London, a star studded alumni, top 5 Uni's in terms of Government funding and top 7 Uni's in terms of research quality.


And I thought I was a bit arrogant because I got into Oxford with my triple A* results. I think KCL is overrated, if I just look at the people who got in from my college, LOL. People who missed their offer by 2 grades, people with BCC at AS... so prestigious, right? :biggrin:
KCL is not the top of the world, it's good, but it isn't among the best ones, 'mate'.
Original post by lawlieto
And I thought I was a bit arrogant because I got into Oxford with my triple A* results. I think KCL is overrated, if I just look at the people who got in from my college, LOL. People who missed their offer by 2 grades, people with BCC at AS... so prestigious, right? :biggrin:
KCL is not the top of the world, it's good, but it isn't among the best ones, 'mate'.


Are you telling me that you actually know people who went to KING'S COLLEGE LONDON with a BCC at AS?

You're obviously pulling my leg mate.

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