Is the South-East the most homophobic part of England?

you care about gay rights yet you don't think gay people should be allowed to adopt children or get married? that's not equality mate

Yrah mate, I'm sure if we type in "why gay people should be allowed to marry/adopt kids" into google, I'm sure many of the results are going to be ranging from somewhat homophobic to dowright offensive.

Not allowing a certaing group of society to marry/adopt is not equality.

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Well before we had gay marriage, people who identified as gay were allowed to marry, just not with their gay partners. In that sense, there was equality.

Really, I don't see it as an issue about people being allowed to marry who they want. I see it as a redefinition of marriage, which I don't think is a good idea for society. Of course, our society limits who people are allowed to marry in a number of ways. For instance, a mother can't marry her daughter for instance, no matter how old the daughter is, and no matter how strong their sexual attraction might be. Another example would be that people can't marry their house.

are you really comparing gay marriage to incest...
just admit you're homophobic and move on

My point was that some young people are quite ignorant and think that when you get over the age of 70 that you cannot find love still etc, and no that is not what im saying, and the fact that someone would believe that two adults of the same sex getting married is comparable to an adult and child is disgusting. As a gay man myself, maybe i should just start going round stripping heterosexual people of the right to marry one another? Oh wait, i wouldn't because im not a F***** judgemental moron #zzzzzZZZzzz

But that's not an argument, it's poisoning the well. Why is the comparison not valid? Why do we always have to insult each other? We all have brains. We can reason you know?

could you at least point out to me why it's not a valid comparison, so that I can rectify my views. Just calling me names is hurtful and to be honest, ironically pretty intolerant.

If you can't see why making a comparison between an incest relationship and a gay couple is wrong, then you won't ever understand, since when did ignorance become a point of view? When you think of marriage between a same-sex couple why on earth would you think of an incestuous relationship? Where is the correlation?

I honestly would not have minded you being against gay marriage if you didn't make that stupid comment.

I'm not stupid. I just asked you why the comparison is invalid. Your fallacy is called "poisoning the well".



and I also look forward to the time when our society "adapts" and "changes" for the better, so that it will finally allow a mother and daughter to marry, as long as they are consenting adults! I look forward to the day... All who disagree with me are incestophobes!

I hope I've made my point.

denying gay people the right to get married and adopt children is also hurtful and intolerant but okay

Im not poisoning the well, maybe my reasoning is a little hazy due to my emotional connection with the topic, but you haven't exactly presented any points to why you disagree with same sex marriage? You are homophobic because you haven't given any reasoning at all, but talked about incest instead?.... Can you remember the day you woke up and realised you were straight? Nope? Just born that way i presume? Oh but somebody who is born gay, or born with dark skin, or born with a disability, nope they should not have the same rights, because what? I think you'll find that you are being ignorant by not being informed on the matter. Remove yourself from said conversation, imbecile.

It's amazing that despite my sarcastic post, you still don't see your hypocrisy. Let me reply to you by editing a quote from you:

"You are homophobic incestophobic because you haven't given any reasoning at all, but talked about incest homosexuality instead..."

Well before we had gay marriage, people who identified as gay were allowed to marry, just not with their gay partners. In that sense, there was equality.

Really, I don't see it as an issue about people being allowed to marry who they want. I see it as a redefinition of marriage, which I don't think is a good idea for society. Of course, our society limits who people are allowed to marry in a number of ways. For instance, a mother can't marry her daughter for instance, no matter how old the daughter is, and no matter how strong their sexual attraction might be. Another example would be that people can't marry their house.

denying gay people the right to get married and adopt children is also hurtful and intolerant but okay

so one of the main problems with incest is that if two first degree relatives conceive a child together, it is very likely that that child will have a serious birth defect which will dramatically decrease their quality of life. gay couples (unless one or both people are trans which is another discussion) cannot conceive but can prove a loving home to children whose biological parents are unable to look after them. this reduces the number of children spending their entire childhood in care homes and the world is over-populated anyway... not sure an incestuous couple would ever get the right to adopt tbh.

imagine the mother-daughter scenario that you mentioned. there is an obvious inequality of power in that relationship as the mother has been bossing the child around for most of their life, leading to an increase in the likelihood of abuse as the child will still look to follow what their mother says. this isn't the same in age-gap same-sex relationships as the older one in the relationship hasn't conceived you, raised you, and then decided to date you... you can't tell me that a father wanting to **** his daughter isn't disgusting.

same-sex couples can have completely normal and healthy relationships just like your average heterosexual couple. comparing homosexuality to incest is one of many things that can cost lgbt+ people their lives as incest is generally considered wrong for many reasons. you don't hear of many people getting murdered for screwing their sister. you could compare any type of relationship to incest, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to be together.

I was showing you your hypocrisy.



That's why I specified two homosexual adults, who just so happen to be mother and daughter...



I'm trying to demonstrate that the family unit should be preserved. I think this discussion highlights the mess we're in, because we've dragged the system far beyond what it was designed for.



So the only issue is that power will not be shared equally between a mother and daughter? Is power shared equally between all heterosexual and homosexual, non-related couples? Does the law get in the way of people with a 40-year age gap getting married?

Look, I could come up with more examples. Why are we not allowed to have four-way marriages? Why aren't we allowed to marry inanimate objects? Why aren't we allowed to marry whatever and whoever we want? Marriage is whatever we want it to mean, right? It's not hurting anyone, is it?

Oh please, you must know the divorce rate for heterosexual marriage. Marriage is just a legal contract and frankly many people jump into it without thinking. In modern society (not religious) there is nothing sacred about it.

Oh good. Gay people were allowed to marry except not to other gay people. Don't try to be funny.

Incest is not homosexuality (I'm not against incest necessarily). Marrying a house is not homosexuality and is not the same as marrying a person and I'm pretty sure I heard a story somewhere in the world about someone doing it anyway.

I don't know if you're a homophobe but your reasoning definitely makes you sound clueless/not very bright.*