Corbyn insults 9/11 victims

Not the worst thing he's ever said, but there is an element of naivety about this tweet.

The campaign against him is no more ridiculous (and far less vitriolic) than Momentum's campaign against so-called 'Blairite' (read: centre-left) Labour supporters.

Not the worst thing he's ever said

We are attacking him because he is disgustingly shoehorning his far left politics on a day that is supposed to be about the victims, not about him and his extremism.

And Corbyn has form for this, he always obnoxiously shoehorns his politics into these things with a churlish little bit of whataboutery.

So when he was asked (reasonably, given his history supporting them) to condemn the IRA, he merely said "I condemn all forms of violence, including violence by the British military". When asked to condemn anti-semitism, he says "I condemn all forms of racism". It's a pathetic, immature little move that's like "I'm not going to be told what to say by anyone". It also shows how completely inflexible and dogmatic he is, and ultimately how little he cares about things like anti-semitism and people whose family members have been killed by terrorists.

It's also very revealing how dismissive you are of their deaths. By the way, it was close to 3,000 not 2,000. But let's not allow your aching ignorance of the history of the last 15 years to get in the way, shall we? By the way, there's absolutely nohting wrong with caring more about people who are closer to you, whether family, friends or countrymen. British Muslims do that all the time; they care more about what happens in Palestine than in Peterborough. And unless you cry just as much about a random dead person as you would for your own parents, then you're hypocrite for asserting that somehow those 2,997 killed and 6,000 seriously injured should mean no more to us than anyone else in the world.

He just couldn't bring himself to memorialise their death without shoehorning in some anti-Western crap.

He just couldn't bring himself to memorialise their death without shoehorning in some anti-Western crap

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn_uk_57d5b55ae4b0d45ff8722418

It's because of nonsense like this that he'll never be Prime Minister. He's simply incapable of behaving like a normal person.

Tedious as ever MostUncivilised.

It is almost certain that corbyn is going to win.

It's probably much closer to about 250,000 but even if we're go to with your number... can you even count? 500K < 2 million

He said millions, I said it's nowhere near "millions". You say it's 500k in Iraq. So nowhere close to even a million, let alone two. Iraq was by far the biggest theatre for casualties during the War on Terror, so the idea that in the rest of the world you will get anywhere close to more than 2 million is bizarre.

To be frank, I'd be amazed if you even got through high school.

If you were to count the rest of the victims of subsequent conflicts that Iraq went onto cause such as Afghanistan, Syria etc it would be pushing a million - and even more if you were to count the number of people it has uplaced and effected.

Nobody is stopping you from remembering or holding a memorial for others, in this case the ensuing conflict. The problem is Hijacking the 9/11 memorial to advance your political views. The memorial should be solely about remembering the 3000 who brutally perished and the thousands of selfless firefighters, police, volunteers who suffered later due to health effects caused by the toxic air

Whilst inviting the angry brother of the owner of the jewelry, credit card and gas pipe round your house on account of them looking sad.

How anyone can take this confused pacifist-Islamist-Eurosceptic-Europhile seriously is beyond me

i suppose it is likely to be beyond you if you're unconditionally negative towards the 'liberal left'

Your suppositions flatter you not, amigo. Not withstanding the fact that I broadly support most progressive trends, and that my politics has been characterised as being left-leaning, one does not follow, logically, from the other. Guess again

Nice backsliding. You criticised me for ridiculing the idea there had been "millions" of deaths. You said 500k died in Iraq. Okay, that's a huge overestimate but let's go with that. Only around 25,000 civilians died in Afghanistan from 2001 to 2014 when the US pulled out, the vast majority of fatalities were combat deaths. So we're up to 525. Around 5,000 have been killed in the drone programme, in Pakistan and Yemen, that's 530. As for the anti-ISIS campaign, only around 1,500 civilians have been killed. 531,500 < 2 million. Even you are saying "a million" is still a million less than two million, which is the minimum number there must have been for that guy to have been correct.

As for Syria in general, if you think the Syrian Civil War was caused by America you are a ****ing moron. I mean, you are literally clueless if you believe that, and so gullible and taken by conspiracy crap that there is no point in speaking to you. But even on your own numbers, it doesn't come anywhere near 2 million... moron.

Oh and the vast majority of people who were killed in Iraq have been killed by their fellow Muslims, due to Islam's inherently violent and aggressive tendencies. America can't be blamed for backward, sectarian tendencies that led to the civil war

I never said that the US caused Syria or the Arab spring

Again, I never claimed that 2 million people died. Moron.

Anyway, I really don't have the energy to debate with anti-semitic, fascist-sympathising conspiracy ****-wits anymore. It's just too much trying to force logic through the haze of paranoia and hysteria. Time to add you to my ignore list. Byeee

Look, if you're not going to respond with any substance, feel free not to respond at all. I'm interested in real discussion, not whiney victim crap from members of the cult.