Should we get rid of weaker universities?

So we're in agreement, excellent. Blow up the lessor universities, like Canada did to their hospitals, and use the fundings they received to fund other access schemes and universities. Brilliant.

Yes those departments can be transplanted if they are merged with already well established universities. If not keep them as vocational colleges and not universities and bring the fees down for courses like Media and Television studies. Like I said we keep alive the specialist departments that are useful and get rid of the useless courses if we have to.

*Your *Naivety, and cool you were a prison officer, I've been in education my whole life and even tutored fellow students. I know what's it like to be at both sides of the spectrum and I'm going to work in the department of education when I finish university. I will 100% vouch for these ideas to be implemented and fight tooth and nail for it. Too many students feel trapped and are being deceived by these shambolic so called 'universities' with incredible amounts of debt.


Attitude does play a key role. Yes serious reforms need to be made but our government is doing good so far. Law/Accountancy/Civil service apprenticeships are amazing.

How disgusting and backward thinking. You want to deny thousands of people further education. Last time I checked education was a human right. Your idea will lower the UK average of how many have higher education as thousands more people won't be able to obtain a degree. This will make the UK look so much worse of a country.

A lot of people don't even go to university in the first place.

There are approximately 250,000 students in Scotland, and only 15 universities. This is about 16,500 students per university.

England has about 530,000 students, yet has 108 universities. This equals about 5000 students per university.

And yet Scottish universities are free for Scottish students, and English universities are not.

This is especially disappointing when you consider how much richer England is than Scotland.

Yeah, what's funny? Going to a bloody English private school for 12 years and paying a crapload of money for it.

There are approximately 250,000 students in Scotland, and only 15 universities. This is about 16,500 students per university.

England has about 530,000 students, yet has 108 universities. This equals about 5000 students per university.

And yet Scottish universities are free for Scottish students, and English universities are not.

This is especially disappointing when you consider how much richer England is than Scotland.

Thinking that GCSEs and A Levels are such hard work.

I assume she went at a time of no or little fees.But what if she went now, would she still be so happy a few years down the line with high debts? Is she working at all, and if so is a job that her "certificate" makes her better at?The problem with university is that it started out as an academic, intellectual endeavor. And sorry, but that is an endeavor that is not for half the population. But now it has been abused by companies as a signal. It is an easy way for them to judge applicants. In addition, it is touted as teaching you "valuable skills", complete rubbish if you ask me. What you do at university and what you do at work, are miles apart in vast majority of cases.And the UK is even worse in this regard. You can study history or chemistry and yet go into banking. What a ridiculous waste of time and resources. The bottom line is there are just too many university places. The government has wholly failed to provide alternatives and even promoted this societal view that getting a degree is a must because a grad job is all the matters.

I have never understood why suddenly it's everyone's God given right to go to university, I don't believe it is. I believe if you reach a certain standard of academic excellence, then you get to go to university, so a university degree is still something we aspire to. Nowadays we just hand out degrees like leaflets in the streets. They've lost their value.

Just recently the top UK universities dropped down in ranking on the global top 100. To solve this we could get rid of all the universities outside of the top 50 and invest that money into our top 50 universities. Boosting the standards of those said universities.

Anglia Ruskin, London Met and the likes are appalling institutions and are basically conning their students off £9000 a year. When videos like these are made by students:

[video="youtube;cV_Wqcdt1YM"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV_Wqcdt1YM[/video]

You know there is an issue.

I say we should cull a huge tranche of the universities at the bottom, that are not meeting the standards and invest the money from that into our top 50 universities. Some of these universities are better off being vocational technical colleges and should be free or have lower tuition fees.

No Lmao, that's a terrible idea. People who aren't as strong as other people academically but have a drive to do something with their life shouldn't just be thrown out the window because they can't go to a "good" university.


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I have never understood why suddenly it's everyone's God given right to go to university, I don't believe it is. I believe if you reach a certain standard of academic excellence, then you get to go to university, so a university degree is still something we aspire to. Nowadays we just hand out degrees like leaflets in the streets. They've lost their value.

Just recently the top UK universities dropped down in ranking on the global top 100. To solve this we could get rid of all the universities outside of the top 50 and invest that money into our top 50 universities. Boosting the standards of those said universities.

Anglia Ruskin, London Met and the likes are appalling institutions and are basically conning their students off £9000 a year. When videos like these are made by students:

[video="youtube;cV_Wqcdt1YM"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV_Wqcdt1YM[/video]

You know there is an issue.

I say we should cull a huge tranche of the universities at the bottom, that are not meeting the standards and invest the money from that into our top 50 universities. Some of these universities are better off being vocational technical colleges and should be free or have lower tuition fees.

So in other words you don't have an argument so you're going to play the statistics card? There's no validation to suggest going to a low ranked university to study a Philosophy of Harry Potter course is better than doing a legal apprenticeship to becoming a lawyer... But if we use common sense we know the answer right? It's empirical. It's why our government is trying to have more students study STEM, so people from lower ranked universities don't study nonsense like Media Studies. Inferences buddy, even though you're good looking, I'm not going to go trawling through the web to find statistical evidence for you when we have common sense.


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I agree somewhat (Even though I'm attending at a bad university - As far as the league tables go anyway) - At least the statement regarding they're practically handed out like leaflets.

As for closing them, I don't agree with so much. Some of the lower ranked universities perform pretty well in some subject areas and prepare graduates pretty well for what they're likely to encounter in their desired field.

I personally think they just need to be far more selective with who they accept. Not strictly from an academic accomplishment standpoint, but factoring in the drive and motivation to learn and succeed in their desired field. Not just accepting any old fool because they apply. In fact, the majority of my bad experiences pretty much narrow down to students with poor attitude rather than the difficulty of the curriculum. Though I guess the former impacts the latter somewhat

Thinking that GCSEs and A Levels are such hard work.

Which universities are cheaper? I know there's the very tiny college like institutes which award degrees and are cheaper but the vast majority charge £9000, that includes Russell Group, Redbrick and the ones op wants to take a fat steamy **** on

I'm an international student. Fees are different for me. All the non-*****y universities start at 17k pounds.