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Original post by Jammy Duel
8 gig is standard, and anything that needs an i7, even a crap one, wants more than 8GB, in terms of storage it's speed, 5400RPM 2.5" is simply dire.

And if any more evidence were needed you're an absolute idiot or more likely a troll it's claiming you're paying triple price for RAM for a laptop that doesn't need it and can't even take it.


In tests more than 8gb was only beneficial for large file photo or video editing.
I bought a Dell Latitude i5, swapped out the HDD for a 256gb sad for £60, clones the is, using the 1tb drive as an external.
Even with all that and 3yr warranty it came to £450.
Plus Acer still has crappy build quality so good luck with it once the warranty finishes
Original post by Another
Brilliant, but
Wouldn't that make your laptop super heavy?

Also, if I get an ancient i3 laptop and install new RAM and SSD - do I get a modern machine again? (Sorry know nothing about computer parts lol)


It will be decent enough but having used refurbed laptops I wouldn't bother, spend £200-250 and just upgrade the hdd

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Original post by Ishax
Are you saying I'm trolling? :s


I'm saying OP is trolling, if they aren't it's a miracle they're actually still alive.
Original post by Colinj451
In tests more than 8gb was only beneficial for large file photo or video editing.
I bought a Dell Latitude i5, swapped out the HDD for a 256gb sad for £60, clones the is, using the 1tb drive as an external.
Even with all that and 3yr warranty it came to £450.
Plus Acer still has crappy build quality so good luck with it once the warranty finishes


You mean like having an i7 then?
Original post by Ishax
I just don't think it's wise to use credit cards because you have to pay it and they charge interest. If you don't pay it by a certain date, more interest is added onto it. Ah well, not my problem.


Perhaps he has a credit card with interest free for 24/27 months or something?
Original post by john2054
I just installed an extra 8 gig to my machine, and almost killed myself (and the machine) in the process. Luckily however, after some delicate tinkering, and less then delicate screwing, i was finally able to take it apart, install the ram, and get it all back together again. And it still looks good as new (almost?)

:s-smilie:


Sure you did - on a machine that is limited to 16GB, sure you added another 8GB and somehow managed to nearly kill yourself - well maybe if you bought cheap and Chinese maybe...

Original post by Another
Brilliant, but
Wouldn't that make your laptop super heavy?

Also, if I get an ancient i3 laptop and install new RAM and SSD - do I get a modern machine again? (Sorry know nothing about computer parts lol)


It'll be around the same weight or maybe 300g or so more. My sister had one made by PC Specialist and I requested two drives. She specified that it needed to be really light

I however prefer business machines as they are built amazingly. I got a used HP Elitebook 8470p, where the hard drive was I swapped it our for an SSD. Where the optical drive was, I replaced it for something that holds a hard drive as I have no need for a DVD drive. Note this is only doable if either you have a DVD drive in your laptop or you have the space for an mSATA drive which I guess you don't if your laptop is "ancient" but you probably do have a DVD drive?

With regards to speed, RAM won't necessarily increase performance if you're no where near max. The SSD can do, though tbh Id say slowness is an issue with the Windows OS when it comes to one hard drive. For some odd reason I've often had my disk drive at 100% when I had a single disk. When I've had two it's settled considerably and it was easier to use and faster

I installed the OS and my programs on to the SSD, documents are on the HDD - you have to be careful with cloud storage as it wants to write to your SSD.


I've mapped documents, downloads, pictures etc... to my hard drive. My machine has 8GB of RAM. Adding in more RAM won't make it faster - it'll just mean I can run more stuff
Original post by trustmeimlying1
SSD make's a big difference but is pricey. yeh can easily chuck out the DVDRW drive which is rarely used and chuck in a SSD.

Either have 256gb SSD+ or have mixture of SSD and HDD seems the general consensus


My SSD is 250GB :biggrin: They're not expensive any more. I bought mine for about £50
A fool and his money are easily parted.
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What a waste of money. Oh wait. You paid for it on credit cards. More debt that you don't need. Sigh.
Original post by IWMTom
I think we all agree with you on that one, but John's stated in his previous threads that he treats credit card limits as free money - why anyone lends to him I have no idea.


I agree, he's going to end up on "Can't Pay? We'll take it away".
Original post by Jammy Duel
I'm saying OP is trolling, if they aren't it's a miracle they're actually still alive.


Oh oops okay, I understand what you mean now :smile:
Original post by IcEmAn911
Perhaps he has a credit card with interest free for 24/27 months or something?


But still, I don't think it's wise to buy products on credit.
Original post by Ishax
But still, I don't think it's wise to buy products on credit.


Well there are some benefits, for example I can buy a £600 TV using my Tesco's Credit Card with 28 months interest free and pay it off over 2-3 months and at the same time collect Clubcard Points. I personally, tend to use my credit card to pay for my food shopping/petrol in order to maximise the points I can earn but I can still pay it off at the end of the month with no issues at all.

Obviously it's not free money, but as long as you can afford to pay it off or over time (interest free) then I don't see what the issue is?
Original post by IcEmAn911
Well there are some benefits, for example I can buy a £600 TV using my Tesco's Credit Card with 28 months interest free and pay it off over 2-3 months and at the same time collect Clubcard Points. I personally, tend to use my credit card to pay for my food shopping/petrol in order to maximise the points I can earn but I can still pay it off at the end of the month with no issues at all.

Obviously it's not free money, but as long as you can afford to pay it off or over time (interest free) then I don't see what the issue is?


That's not the point, the point is OP doesn't even work. His wife probably funds it for him. Fair enough, if he worked then he has ways to pay of the credit cards but without a job. How can he do that?

My parents have maintained not to every buy anything on credit so I avoid to do so.
Original post by The_Internet
Sure you did - on a machine that is limited to 16GB, sure you added another 8GB and somehow managed to nearly kill yourself - well maybe if you bought cheap and Chinese maybe...



It'll be around the same weight or maybe 300g or so more. My sister had one made by PC Specialist and I requested two drives. She specified that it needed to be really light

I however prefer business machines as they are built amazingly. I got a used HP Elitebook 8470p, where the hard drive was I swapped it our for an SSD. Where the optical drive was, I replaced it for something that holds a hard drive as I have no need for a DVD drive. Note this is only doable if either you have a DVD drive in your laptop or you have the space for an mSATA drive which I guess you don't if your laptop is "ancient" but you probably do have a DVD drive?

With regards to speed, RAM won't necessarily increase performance if you're no where near max. The SSD can do, though tbh Id say slowness is an issue with the Windows OS when it comes to one hard drive. For some odd reason I've often had my disk drive at 100% when I had a single disk. When I've had two it's settled considerably and it was easier to use and faster

I installed the OS and my programs on to the SSD, documents are on the HDD - you have to be careful with cloud storage as it wants to write to your SSD.


I've mapped documents, downloads, pictures etc... to my hard drive. My machine has 8GB of RAM. Adding in more RAM won't make it faster - it'll just mean I can run more stuff


We tried a HP 8960 I think and at 6-7pounds in weight got rejected out of hand.
The Dell is about 4pound so eminently more portable

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Original post by IcEmAn911
Well there are some benefits, for example I can buy a £600 TV using my Tesco's Credit Card with 28 months interest free and pay it off over 2-3 months and at the same time collect Clubcard Points. I personally, tend to use my credit card to pay for my food shopping/petrol in order to maximise the points I can earn but I can still pay it off at the end of the month with no issues at all.

Obviously it's not free money, but as long as you can afford to pay it off or over time (interest free) then I don't see what the issue is?


The difference between John and yourself is that you seem entirely logical and rational, with a means to pay. John takes out every credit card he can, and maxes the limit, all whilst unemployed and claiming benefits.

I urge you to read his other threads if you are not aware of his antics.
Original post by The_Internet
My SSD is 250GB :biggrin: They're not expensive any more. I bought mine for about £50
Absolutely. Very affordable. But if budget is tight get a mix of SSD and HDD. Personally SSD is well worth it.
With what you said you wanted to use it for, you may as well have spent about £150.
:s-smilie:
I love how hard you work to tilt people on TSR lol
Original post by Colinj451
We tried a HP 8960 I think and at 6-7pounds in weight got rejected out of hand.
The Dell is about 4pound so eminently more portable

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I think mine must weigh that much :biggrin: Here's the thing, the elitebooks are rugged as hell. The only laptops tougher than the elitebooks are the Panasonic Toughbooks really. I've introduced a weak point by taking out the original DVD drive, and adding in a hard drive instead, but other than that it's sturdy!

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