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Original post by Squishy•
Anyone who has done the ukcat, Were there QR questions with a lot of text in them? If so what proportion of QR would you say had them?


Sorry misread your message haha!

QR was quite a mix for me, had about half of them pretty short and other half a few lines of text but nothing overly crazy.

Hope that helps! Qr went a lot better than I expected so don't worry :smile:

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I am really struggling with the verbal reasoning comprehension questions, it takes me too long to look through the text with regards to the answer choices and cancel out the options, like over 30 seconds per choice, and very often I still get the answer wrong. I am fine with the True, False and Can't tell questions, but I have been informed that most questions now are Reading Comprehension. does anyone have any tips for comprehension questions?
Original post by michaela__
Internal exams are exams that aren't credited by an exam board I think, so your school makes you a paper up or you get a paper but it doesn't get sent off to AQA etc! Yeah new reforms are harder and my exams were hard but if your teacher could make you up your own exam paper do you really think they would make it that hard (I doubt they would personally) and plus it's hard to compare as you don't sit it nationally like everyone else. No I won't be able to push for 3 a stars unfortunately.


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This is a good point actually. I wonder how it will affect the admissions process if Universities are receiving a lot more applicants with AAA+ predictions, makes it harder for them to trust the teachers predictions.


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Original post by michaela__
Thank you! Haha I have emailed them already (and not phoned) don't think I'll be applying to Exeter as I'm predicted A*A*A I believe :frown: happy but can't apply to Exeter with that tbh. I'm planning on ringing all the uni's I want and just bombarding them with questions lmao they will hate me 😂 just don't want to waste an application as my ukcat is good but it's not safe if you get me!


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Does Exeter have a particular admissions policy about high predicted grades? I would have thought A*A*A would be more than enough...
Original post by ASTK98
This is a good point actually. I wonder how it will affect the admissions process if Universities are receiving a lot more applicants with AAA+ predictions, makes it harder for them to trust the teachers predictions.


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There is no logic in the idea that predictions will increase this year. I responded to that quote further up.
Original post by Squishy•
Predicted grades don't get students into university, achieved grades do. And besides, if that was the case schools can still predict people with low grades to get high grades at the end. That's more logical than giving a false representation of the exam and deceiving them into thinking it's easier than it's going to be and then having them get lower achieved grades.
A part of difficulty is the grade boundaries. If they can score 20/100 and still get a good grade then the test is easy never mind if the 100 questions were hard.


Well for Exeter they get you into uni. Yeah but doing an internal exam you don't normally use the national grade boundaries, there's no cap on the amount of A's you can get that way so I don't think you understand where I'm coming from in terms of predictions.


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Original post by deathbeforeimmortality
Haven't done much practice this week but will try over the next few days. My test is on Tuesday. I'm grateful for this thread.*


I have mines tuesday too😁 so scared, but can't wait to get it over😂
Original post by HMarles
Does Exeter have a particular admissions policy about high predicted grades? I would have thought A*A*A would be more than enough...


Exeter put you into tiers so three a stars is tier 1, 2 a stars 1 A is tier 2. They invite people for interview and whatever tier they reach the end of: let's say 500 to interview, they invite all of the 400 in tier 1. There could be 200 applicants in tier 2 so they then use their cut off to select 100 for interview from tier 2. That's what I was told by the uni anyway.


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Original post by ASTK98
This is a good point actually. I wonder how it will affect the admissions process if Universities are receiving a lot more applicants with AAA+ predictions, makes it harder for them to trust the teachers predictions.


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I think for most uni's it would be fine but places like Exeter it would make harder to be selected I think so anyway.


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Original post by michaela__
Well for Exeter they get you into uni. Yeah but doing an internal exam you don't normally use the national grade boundaries, there's no cap on the amount of A's you can get that way so I don't think you understand where I'm coming from in terms of predictions.


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I understand that there are no national grade boundaries but that was my point. If they were low, although they would get higher grades then they would be given a false representation of the real exam and lower expectations of the real exam and thus lower achieved grades.
For Exeter they don't get you into university, they get you an interview and a conditional offer which is often dependent on your predictions. Many universities give you a conditional with higher grades than minimum based on your predictions.
Even so, if the schools aim was to predict them higher grades their would be no point in potentially lowering their achieved grades by false representations instead of predicting them high grades no matter what grades they actually received. If someone got a C, there would be nothing preventing the school from predicting the student an A or A*. That would be the more intelligent alternative instead of giving them an easy test so then in tern their actual achieved grades will be lowered.
Original post by WhoDaresWins
Hmmm...

I'm still going to risk it, what do I have to lose? (Lol 1 rejection >.<)

Hey btw if you don't mind me asking, what did you get at GCSE and A level?


I'm risking it too as I think I'll be close either way so it's not a huge irresponsible risk when I don't have many choices as it is! GCSE I got 5 a stars, 3 a's, 1b. I'm being predicted A*A*A I think.


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how can I improve my VR Score????
Original post by Squishy•
I understand that there are no national grade boundaries but that was my point. If they were low, although they would get higher grades then they would be given a false representation of the real exam and lower expectations of the real exam and thus lower achieved grades.
For Exeter they don't get you into university, they get you an interview and a conditional offer which is often dependent on your predictions. Many universities give you a conditional with higher grades than minimum based on your predictions.
Even so, if the schools aim was to predict them higher grades their would be no point in potentially lowering their achieved grades by false representations instead of predicting them high grades no matter what grades they actually received. If someone got a C, there would be nothing preventing the school from predicting the student an A or A*. That would be the more intelligent alternative instead of giving them an easy test so then in tern their actual achieved grades will be lowered.


I'm not talking about getting in I'm talking about offers. I completely agree that it is a false representative.


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Original post by michaela__
Exeter put you into tiers so three a stars is tier 1, 2 a stars 1 A is tier 2. They invite people for interview and whatever tier they reach the end of: let's say 500 to interview, they invite all of the 400 in tier 1. There could be 200 applicants in tier 2 so they then use their cut off to select 100 for interview from tier 2. That's what I was told by the uni anyway.


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I was under the impression that they made a UKCAT cut-off, or has that changed since last year?

Thanks for the info btw
Original post by mm_7
how can I improve my VR Score????


I struggled massively with VR at the start, used to get less than 50% on medify.

But I started by reading the first sentence of the text, so you know roughly what its on about. Then scan the rest for about 5 seconds before moving on to the answers.

Also if the text is about something which you have knowledge about, then I didn't even read the text I just answered based on my own knowledge. Although they say dont do this, it worked for me.
Original post by michaela__
I'm not talking about getting in I'm talking about offers. I completely agree that it is a false representative.


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You said the aim of the school was to get students into university. What good is an offer if they don't achieve the right grades and as a result don't get into university?
Original post by HopelessMedic
I struggled massively with VR at the start, used to get less than 50% on medify.

But I started by reading the first sentence of the text, so you know roughly what its on about. Then scan the rest for about 5 seconds before moving on to the answers.

Also if the text is about something which you have knowledge about, then I didn't even read the text I just answered based on my own knowledge. Although they say dont do this, it worked for me.


ahh ok! cuz what i struggle with is that i can't scan the passage and understand/read the words at the same time so i forget everything i've read :s
Original post by mm_7
ahh ok! Cuz what i struggle with is that i can't scan the passage and understand/read the words at the same time so i forget everything i've read :s


same here!!!!
Original post by .......Jeff458
same here!!!!


ahhh! i know how annoying is it?? my eyes just end up wandering around the passage so nothing makes sense and time just goes to waste for me :frown:
Original post by mm_7
ahhh! i know how annoying is it?? my eyes just end up wandering around the passage so nothing makes sense and time just goes to waste for me :frown:


I have to get tea for that because I fall asleep otherwise :'(.

I cannot break the 580 barrier in practice and don't know what the hell to do if I am aiming for 600 in that section alone on the exam as the exams is supposed to be harder.

I can't do reading comprehension for the life of me. I will spend 5 minutes on one question and end up guessing everything!

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