Graduate Entry Medicine 2017

I've just started my revision for BMAT and honestly it doesn't look easy.
This is the first time I'll be doing it so I can't advise on any strategies etc.
But I imagine it'll take up quite some time for preparation, much more than UKCAT.

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i feel the opposite cause for sections 2 and 3 u can really prep. I feel the uKCAT has a huge element of luck too..

Reply 1581

paniking_and_not_revising

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Original post by MMedicine94

Hey guys

I'm a 2:1 graduate with the following UKCAT scores:

VR - 590 (worst section!!)
QR - 720
AR - 750

I was looking to apply to Warwick, King's and Newcastle - do you think I stand a chance if I have a great list of work experience placements and an outstanding PS?

Thank you, and good luck everyone! :smile:

Warwick look at VR scores first and then your UCKAT score.

Original post by FA_600

I'd email a number of them at the same time. Just in case your tutor doesn't reply hopefully another lecturer will.

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Thanks. I'm still waiting for the unis I'm applying to to reply about whether I can get a reference from my volunteer manager but none are replying.

Reply 1582

RoadsideRomeo

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Original post by paniking_and_not_revising

Warwick look at VR scores first and then your UCKAT score.

Thanks. I'm still waiting for the unis I'm applying to to reply about whether I can get a reference from my volunteer manager but none are replying.

I was in the same situation. Emailed my tutor a few weeks ago but heard nothing, so I'd say email a few others as you wouldn't want to leave it too late.

Reply 1583

RoadsideRomeo

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Original post by Peace4life

Thanks. Really beginning to panic now tbh. Need to still write personal statement and decide where to apply

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Can I ask is there a specific structure you're following? Just want to see if I can make mine flow a bit better.

Reply 1584

Tsar101

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Original post by Spudhead

Thanks for the info man, appreciate it. Do Barts consider MSc that are still in progress based on a predicted grade? And then make a conditional offer?

Yeah I'm seriously considering BMAT for imperial, however I'm wondering if 1 month really is enough time to revise for it? I'll basically have to re-learn chemistry in that time whilst also at uni doing my masters.

How come imperial grad med is 5 rather than 4 years, anyone know? Is it still fully funded by SFE and NHS like the 4 year?

I think that would count. If you have a good prediction then this will significantly boost your chances. But still contact admissions to make sure that this is the case(better be safe than sorry). Yes they will make you a conditional offer based on your MSc degree.

1 month is perfectly fine. Don't worry :smile:

irk but that's life I guess :frown:

Unfortunately the 5yr course it is not fully funded by SFE. However, we are eligible for a maintenance loan. I will be using that loan to partly fund it and work part time on the weekends to pay for those ridiculous fees. It shouldn't affect me too much as I am a Londoner.

Reply 1585

Spudhead

1

Original post by Tsar101

I think that would count. If you have a good prediction then this will significantly boost your chances. But still contact admissions to make sure that this is the case(better be safe than sorry). Yes they will make you a conditional offer based on your MSc degree.

1 month is perfectly fine. Don't worry :smile:

irk but that's life I guess :frown:

Unfortunately the 5yr course it is not fully funded by SFE. However, we are eligible for a maintenance loan. I will be using that loan to partly fund it and work part time on the weekends to pay for those ridiculous fees. It shouldn't affect me too much as I am a Londoner.

Thanks dude, I'll still include my masters on my application anyways and ask my Uni tutor/professor to include my predicted grade in his reference. Surely it cant harm :smile:

I just dont think theres any feasible way I could afford to live in London and pay fee's, even with the £8000 maintenance loan. I could afford the first 2-3 years but after that I'd be screwed.

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Gd07998

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Hey Guys,

I'm new to this and have had a read through some of these messages but thought i'd post my situation to see if anyone would be able to help me out!

Currently 4th year MPharm student and achieved 1st's every year so far, so hoping for a first. Applying for deferred entry (2018) so I can qualify as a pharmacist to help fund Med school and increase my work experience.

GCSE's weren't great: 2A*, 2A, 5B.
Diploma in Digital Applications: Merit (equiv to GCSE A)
Free Standing Mathematics Qualification: B

A Levels AABa in Maths, Chemistry, Biology and Psychology respectively.

UKCAT (not the best) VR 540, QR 890, AR 630, SJ Band 3 (oops).

Sitting the BMAT in November.

On top of all that i'm dyslexic which wasn't found out until I went to Uni, so excuse the poor GCSE's and VR.

I have an extensive list of healthcare related work experience including, community pharmacy jobs/placements/voluntary work, hospital pharmacy placements, hospice work experience, specialist hospital work experience, three different GP practices, 2 years volunteering in a residential home, volunteering and now working for a contraception and sexual health team at university, volunteering for many other university roles including going to shelters and president of a society.

I am currently sitting on a pre-registration offer for hospital pharmacy (1 year paid work) for the year between graduating and (hopefully) starting medicine.

That aside, I have a guaranteed interview to study at BSMS through my university and course (YAY!) and decided to make use of my application and apply for three other universities.

I am thinking:
Keele (undergraduate)
Newcastle (postgraduate)
Southampton (postgraduate).

Can anyone shed some light on my choices with a quick summary of my background above? Am I wasting any of my choices?

I have obviously done my research but may have missed some things.

Thanks in advance and if I can help anyone I will!!

Reply 1587

Tsar101

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Original post by Spudhead

Thanks dude, I'll still include my masters on my application anyways and ask my Uni tutor/professor to include my predicted grade in his reference. Surely it cant harm :smile:

I just dont think theres any feasible way I could afford to live in London and pay fee's, even with the £8000 maintenance loan. I could afford the first 2-3 years but after that I'd be screwed.

I know it's kind of unfair with the finances. Also, I think the final year is fully funded by the NHS so it isn't as bad as one might think.

Good Luck :smile:

Reply 1588

Peace4life

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Not really tbh. Just following the structure used for your first personal statement when applying for ucas first time round. Add bits of work experience at the middle and hobbies at the end

Reply 1589

Rosser1994

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Right I need some serious advice here.

Ive literally just started my masters this week and I've gotten some pretty awful news which is making me want to withdraw and go home with my family.

If I were to drop out of the masters at this very early stage, do you think it will impact my GEM application at all for next year?

I've got a 2:1 in Biomedical Science so it's not a problem with meeting the minimum requirements etc.

Thanks for any and all advice!

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Peace4life

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Original post by Rosser1994

Right I need some serious advice here.

Ive literally just started my masters this week and I've gotten some pretty awful news which is making me want to withdraw and go home with my family.

If I were to drop out of the masters at this very early stage, do you think it will impact my GEM application at all for next year?

I've got a 2:1 in Biomedical Science so it's not a problem with meeting the minimum requirements etc.

Thanks for any and all advice!

Very difficult choice tbh. It depends on a lot of things. Firstly, have you paid for the tuition fees already and is it refundable? How badly do you really wanna study medicine? Do you really need to do a masters with your degree? With the rate NHS are cutting costs,I think everyone will decide they want to be a doctor.

The masters can be done anytime . Hence no real urgency unless there's a particular job you really want to get into that requires you to do a masters.

Its really a personal decision. Medicine is definitely worth it in the long run. I can oly speak from experience working in the NHS, and all you see is doctors all around. Just makes you think.....I could have been one too. Lol. Will you be able to live down with that? But then there's the flip side of not getting into med school. How much will you regret dropping out?

So it's a difficult one.....

Reply 1591

Tsar101

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Original post by Rosser1994

Right I need some serious advice here.

Ive literally just started my masters this week and I've gotten some pretty awful news which is making me want to withdraw and go home with my family.

If I were to drop out of the masters at this very early stage, do you think it will impact my GEM application at all for next year?

I've got a 2:1 in Biomedical Science so it's not a problem with meeting the minimum requirements etc.

Thanks for any and all advice!

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I am very sorry to hear that :frown:

I know you are having a hard time but a Masters is only 9/10 months dedication. Just try to grit your teeth and work through it. Only decide to leave your current course if you think it's impossible for you to continue. A masters can help you significantly in places like Warwick and Barts. But only you can decide what to do as only you know your current situation.
Leaving your course however should not have much effect provided your future referee mentions this unfortunate mitigating circumstance. Universities can be very understanding. So don't worry and I wish you all the best :smile:

Reply 1592

paniking_and_not_revising

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Original post by NafNaf39

I was in the same situation. Emailed my tutor a few weeks ago but heard nothing, so I'd say email a few others as you wouldn't want to leave it too late.

Would it be worth it to email lecturers who taught me only for like a semester or something? Cos I'm starting to run out of people to contact.

Did you get the reference in the end?

Reply 1593

Ama2007

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quick question, I have been in employment for 4-5 years, need 2 references for Cambridge and UCAS

Who should I ask?? (because one needs to be academic right?)

Can I ask my pre-reg tutor (4 *years ago) ? because tbh I cant remember any of my lecturers names.

and the second referee is going to be a trustee from one of the charities I worked with. *

Reply 1594

Marathi

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Just sat my UKCAT and scored 703.33 overall (anyone know if this gets rounded up, down, or not at all?) with a VR of 680. Hopefully this will be enough for a Warwick interview!

The passage lengths in VR were on average longer than UKCAT practise and Medify, but I felt the questions were on par/slightly easier. QR felt pretty similar to Medify for me, some really easy questions but a few which were more time consuming. AR is AR!!!

Good luck to everyone who is yet to sit it! You can do it! :smile:

Reply 1595

js1208

Hi guys,

*honest opinions welcome*

UKCAT 640 average (I understand this is weak for GEM) VR 570 QR 690 AR 660 Band 1
2:2 BSc Hons (poor circumstances)
MSc with Distinction

any options with UKCAT score?

Considering taking GAMSAT and BMAT uni entrance exams for applications next year

Thanks in advance...

Reply 1596

username224260

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Original post by js1208

Hi guys,

*honest opinions welcome*

UKCAT 640 average (I understand this is weak for GEM) VR 570 QR 690 AR 660 Band 1
2:2 BSc Hons (poor circumstances)
MSc with Distinction

any options with UKCAT score?

Considering taking GAMSAT and BMAT uni entrance exams for applications next year

Thanks in advance...

It's up to you to throw an application in this cycle if you want. I think it might be good motivation for you to get started on a personal statement (it is £23 to submit the application though)

In all honesty, I got a 695 on my UKCAT last year and decided to sit the 2016 cycle out. In your shoes, I would start learning the material for the GAMSAT now, in slow but steady chunks, so you absolutely smash the marks when it comes around to the exam (if you take it in March? or May, can't remember when the first one happens). If you take the exam earlier in the year you will have the results in hand before you start applying. Off the top of my head, it's only Nottingham now who accept 2:2s but do ask around other schools instead of taking my word for it! If you have an excellent reference (which explains your circumstances), good GAMSAT result and a masters you may get away with it.

Reply 1597

Marathi

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Original post by Lilibee

It's up to you to throw an application in this cycle if you want. I think it might be good motivation for you to get started on a personal statement (it is £23 to submit the application though)

In all honesty, I got a 695 on my UKCAT last year and decided to sit the 2016 cycle out. In your shoes, I would start learning the material for the GAMSAT now, in slow but steady chunks, so you absolutely smash the marks when it comes around to the exam (if you take it in March? or May, can't remember when the first one happens). If you take the exam earlier in the year you will have the results in hand before you start applying. Off the top of my head, it's only Nottingham now who accept 2:2s but do ask around other schools instead of taking my word for it! If you have an excellent reference (which explains your circumstances), good GAMSAT result and a masters you may get away with it.

Swansea, Warwick, and SGUL accept 2.2 with a Masters, as is the case here.

Reply 1598

hyro

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Hi Everyone,

I'm a third year chemist and I'm also applying for grad med. I did my UKCAT today, and I got 690 avg ( 610 VR, 780 QR, 680 AR). I realise that my score means I probably won't even reach interview stage, but I'll still apply. I'm predicted a first (I think!)

Reply 1599

neuronerd

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Newcastle I'd say you are better off resitting the UKCAT and applying next year. This year the cut off was well in the 700s and the band 3 will really go against you.

http://www.ncl.ac.uk/mbbs/admissions/documents/OverviewUKCATThresholds.pdf

It's pretty similar with Southampton, they are very UKCAT heavy and rank all applicants in order of UKCAT then do interview invites from the top.

In your shoes I'd take the year out and apply next year (as you are already taking the year out anyway)

Just my two cents though

Original post by Gd07998

Hey Guys,

Currently 4th year MPharm student and achieved 1st's every year so far, so hoping for a first. Applying for deferred entry (2018) so I can qualify as a pharmacist to help fund Med school and increase my work experience.

UKCAT (not the best) VR 540, QR 890, AR 630, SJ Band 3 (oops).

That aside, I have a guaranteed interview to study at BSMS through my university and course (YAY!) and decided to make use of my application and apply for three other universities.

I am thinking:
Keele (undergraduate)
Newcastle (postgraduate)
Southampton (postgraduate)

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