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Are women the friendlier gender?

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theres no way to know

i know men and women who are both pleasant and approachable

and an equally amount of men and women who are the opposite
Original post by yudothis
Triggered?

The best answers, the best models, the best solutions, are all simple.


Yes, parsimony is ideal in science, but anyone with an ounce of knowledge in Psychology (or perhaps just common sense) recognises that to simplify such complex behaviour as "friendliness" to a hormone alone, is both reductionist and deterministic.

Friendly behaviour is, like all behaviours, the result of a complex interaction between genes and environment. Boys are raised to be more rough and tumbly, they are raised to be aggressive, this can be seen through their toys which forms an integral part of their socialisation- guns, action man etc.

It's not a simple case as "man has testosterone, man is aggressive!", with the compulsory chest beating.
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I think we are delving into a psychology that none of us understand: that is the difference between the sexes. Generally women are x and men are y is meaningless, people are different, to place them as x or y seems to be a sort of stereotype amongst the genders that probably has more to do with bias and accepted behaviour than reality. Women are expected to be x, not y and men are expected to be y not x. I don't think it makes any sense it's a societal value system. The truthiness of it lies in bias and cultural cues.
this is not my convo, but just thought of letting you know that while they may look innocent and ****, women can be terrifying
they don't need to be aggressive or anything like that
*****es gon' **** you up
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women are always friendly to me (im a man) and dont force me to play along in their games. other women are forced to play but i think they kinda want to.
They are not friendly behaviours, obviously. But do you define friendliness as 'not raping/beating up'? That's like saying women are better people because men are more likely to rape/be violent. Now don't get me wrong, I am a feminist, and I've been known to say that women are better ppl, but I think if we are talking scientifically and trying to find objectivity, then we can't really say that. We're talking general social interaction, not likelihood to engage in certain behaviours. The person who crashes your car or steals your TV might also be super friendly. Also, thanks for the Louis CK clip, always a pleasure :rofl:
Original post by Twinpeaks
Yes, parsimony is ideal in science, but anyone with an ounce of knowledge in Psychology (or perhaps just common sense) recognises that to simplify such complex behaviour as "friendliness" to a hormone alone, is both reductionist and deterministic.

Friendly behaviour is, like all behaviours, the result of a complex interaction between genes and environment. Boys are raised to be more rough and tumbly, they are raised to be aggressive, this can be seen through their toys which forms an integral part of their socialisation- guns, action man etc.

It's not a simple case as "man has testosterone, man is aggressive!", with the compulsory chest beating.



Original post by SophiaNeuning
Nope. It's a wide arena of discussion, I simply deny the statement that men are more aggressive and that this causes them to be less friendly. You can talk about it as an idea, but to say it as a simple statement, as a fact, would be untrue.


It would be amazing if more disciplines understood and used the concept of ceteris paribus.
Original post by yudothis
It would be amazing if more disciplines understood and used the concept of ceteris paribus.


If you knew a single thing about these "disciplines", they do. :rolleyes: I admire your arrogance.

Although nowadays more and more weight is given to the interaction of factors, which is far more important when studying behaviour in a realistic setting. See systems theory.
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Original post by Twinpeaks
If you knew a single thing about these "disciplines", they do. :rolleyes: I admire your arrogance.

Although nowadays more and more weight is given to the interaction of factors, which is far more important when studying behaviour in a realistic setting. See systems theory.


If you did, you wouldn't have such qualms with my statement :wink:
Original post by yudothis
It would be amazing if more disciplines understood and used the concept of ceteris paribus.


they do mate
It's social conditioning isn't it, men are no more likely to be aggressive than women, let's face it. But society over time, in which men are stronger physically has lead to men becoming more aggressive. I think both sexes have an equal chance of being aggressive but over time the aggressiveness has been attributed to man because of our societal interests and societal development.
Original post by SophiaNeuning
they do mate


And yet you show absolutely no appreciation of it. Too bad.
Original post by yudothis
If you did, you wouldn't have such qualms with my statement :wink:


The trouble is, you clearly know nothing about the research discipline being discussed, and are attempting to apply your own principles to it. But it's not going to work. Do some reading, come back and try again.
Original post by Twinpeaks
The trouble is, you clearly know nothing about the research discipline being discussed, and are attempting to apply your own principles to it. But it's not going to work. Do some reading, come back and try again.


And who is arrogant now :biggrin:

It's actually quite funny, the other poster all but agreed with me except that I am making it too simple. Now, unless you are saying me making it simple is me not having a clue, then I ask you how that goes along supposed appreciation of ceteris paribus. Because it doesn't. Because you have no clue. Which you have repeatedly proven with your posts, and I am getting tired of them, and literally.
Original post by yudothis
And yet you show absolutely no appreciation of it. Too bad.


You haven't even bothered to provide me with any discussion other than the one really basic statement you made. I don't know what you appreciate, but it certainly ain't 'it'.
Depends on the individual. Men are more aggressive though, not doubt.
Depends. I find it easier making friends with females, I think I get slightly intimidated by other males sometimes.
Original post by SophiaNeuning
You haven't even bothered to provide me with any discussion other than the one really basic statement you made. I don't know what you appreciate, but it certainly ain't 'it'.


Suit yourself. Denial is a strong tool.
No, they are not.
Original post by Elastichedgehog
Depends. I find it easier making friends with females, I think I get slightly intimidated by other males sometimes.

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